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Joe Brown used to do friction climbs in plimsolls -- Keds, basically.

I'd bet you $10 there is way better hash in Seattle than in Afghanistan

Especially kids. I'd rather have kids scrambling all over the icicle hip-belaying each other in tennis shoes than not at all. As if an organization charging $185 can't afford to have ATC's and pear biners to loan to their students. No no no, go read the original post. They had proper belay devices (ATCs), they were just being taught the hip belay as a novelty backup option afterwards. Also, the $185 figure people are throwing around comes from their website. It's a 2 1/2 day program including white water rafting. Not a bad deal.

Especially kids. I'd rather have kids scrambling all over the icicle hip-belaying each other in tennis shoes than not at all.

hmm. You really think it's so dramatic that my children won't be able to enjoy leavenworth slab because a group of guys skidded over it with street shoes? Of course, ANY shoe will polish the rock, eventually -- just look at Midway. But you really think the difference between a climbing shoe and a street shoe is so dramatic? Sounds dubious. What about hiking boots, then? Or climbing boots?

Climbing in street shoes polishes the rock "into glass," and desecrates our resources? Correct me if I'm wrong, but that sounds ludicrous. I've never before heard anyone even suggest that climbing shoes were meant to protect the rock. Who told you this? I've never even heard anything similar.

I don't know how something that was presumably pasteurized and sealed could ferment unless it were damaged and wild yeast got in, and anyway, even if it some yeast was alive in there and it wasn't damaged, then it would probably pop from the C02 build-up -- or should at least be obviously bloated. I don't think sugar really goes bad. Protein and amino acids probably do?

You mean Smiff? That's what the cool kids say

they're OK, but the texture and taste might be weird. I've eaten 2-year old ones before and nothing bad happened. Was a bit grainy. P.S. if you decide you don't want them, I'll take em

Oh snap, to think that all this time I've known a woman with the last name of "McDonald" and I've never bothered to ask her for free burgers. way to stay ahead of the curve.

without the spray forum, there would be no way for people to feel self-righteous about not posting in the spray forum

Same same at Smiff. why does everyone say smiff? it sounds fucking retarded

I had a bladder come apart once on Baker because I put hot water in it (from the stove). I guess you're not supposed to do that? It came apart in my sleeping bag, where I had put it by my feet to keep me warm. That was a really cold night.

Just don't blow too much in, or you'll end up inflating your bladder which is no big deal but I find it awkward with a full pack

So people disagreeing with you is spray? The majority of the replies were on topic, people just didn't agree with you. If you are that sensitive, perhaps don't start a thread stating your opinion? Just a thought... +1, I didn't see any spray, either. I thought it was a good conversation

Just order it on the internet. Regular ephedrine, too (yes, ephedrine is still legal OTC, just not as a diet aid). Luckily, you can still buy pseudo-ephedrine OTC in Washington without resorting to mail-order, because that shit is the tits for a head cold.

conrad kain and his generation would say otherwise. let the rebirth of the giant alpenstocks and their step whacking assault upon the ice slopes begin. A few years ago an inexperienced climber fell on a small ice slope near the summit of three-fingers and ripped his calf open with his crampons. He had a HUGE antique ice axe, one of those long wooden ones with a straight pick and no teeth. He was unable to arrest.

http://www.metoliusclimbing.com/pas_personal_anchor_system.html

i'm pretty sure he was joking, you know. It does sound kinda funny.

wow, even after unweighting it? Crazy! I has something similar happen once.

Hmm, yeah, I guess. I was always taught that you should always be prepared to pass the knot. After all, the climber in the hole could be above you, or at a weird fall angle. Or the arresting climber could be injured, or it could turn into a hauling situation. Or there could be wind. Or.... I've never been in a real crevasse incident, but when practicing, clearing the lip has ALWAYS been difficult. I've tried it with a knot in the lip, too, but admittedly it wasn't after a fall

huh? If you tie butterfly knots in the rope between the climbers then you have to send an unknotted rope down so the guy in the hole can prusik out. Ah. I was just always taught to pass the knot.

huh?

Yeah, but can you define a "standard, healthy diet?" I tried doing the USDA recommended 56g a day and it really, really sucked. As a cyclist, I can definitely say that my diet has a major impact on my performance, possibly second only to training itself. Actually, climbing too -- it's hard to imagine climbers eating the same way non-athletic people do. Don't your dietary requirements change as you become more active? After all, if our activity level is not "standard" than how can our diet be?