Mr_Phil

Must have graduated from the Kerry School of Public Speaking.

To quote Winter: The picture you paint is far too simplistic. The $200k Microsoft programmer argument is a strawman, so I'm not going to bite. The gas pump jockey is a better analogy. When the price of gas doubled from $1.50 to $3.00 recently, did people cut their fuel usage in half? I don't think so. If the minimum wage is bumped up, then the gas station will simply bump up the cost of gasoline a few cents and customers will pay. Since a number of customers are minimum wage folks, they can afford it. $200k programmers at Microsoft won't notice. The pump jockey can't be off shored, since he is in the service industry. This doesn't target a single company, since all gas stations will have to pay higher wages. I still don't understand why your hybrid system (minimum wage + Gov't subsidy = living income) is a better solution. As Phelps said: To earn one's own way - to meet a decent living standard, afford children, and share in community life - is essential to one's sense of self-worth. To know the satisfactions of employment - its challenges and learning experiences, and the personal development that comes with mastering jobs - is also one of life's basic goods. We should not deny this to the large number of folks who pick our crops, pump our gas, or clean our toilets.

Jay, Is there the implicit assumption in your arguments that increasing the minimum wage will significantly increase unemployment?

Explain. [i'm assuming I cleared the clutter accurately.]

Then what is the benefit to your plan? Either set the minimum wage to achieve the "minimum income" level, or have no minimum wage. No minimum wage means no regulation. No?

Then businesses will start paying low end workers $1 per year.

And you're reading it!

But as we all know, Gregoire started it.

Here's what Will Gadd has to say on the topic: Climbing Movement Theory The Big Concept: Climbing is a movement sport, not a strength sport. The best climbers are good at climbing; strength matters far less than the combination of the climber’s motion skills, attitude and mind. The best way to become a better climber is develop better movement; strength will develop specifically for climbing movement as fast as it is needed. Most climbs are combinations of movements; the better the climber is at those movements, the better he or she will climb the route. Strength is not even secondary, it’s about last on the list of needed skills. My goal is to teach the MOVES outlined below as best I can to students. Example: In 1992 I became convinced that good climbers were strong climbers, hence I needed to be strong. After spending months in the weight room I could do a one-arm pull up with 25 pounds in the other hand and many other stunts that definitely made me very strong. My climbing improved perhaps a letter grade or two, which was positive. I then went to France, where I won several pull-up contests, often by miles. Some of these climbers were pathetic, barely able to do ten pull-ups, and these were the best in the world! Then I noticed that I was getting my ass kicked in the competitions, finishing low in the field despite being stronger than most anyone there. At the crags the French were climbing much harder routes onsight than I was capable of climbing with a lot of falls. Something was not right. One night in a bar a top euro climber was expounding on why the French were so good: "We have the best rock in the world. We climb more than anyone else. And we have the best wine." In one sentence he restructured my entire world view of climbing: To become a better climber you simply must climb more. A week later I watched Francois LeGrande onsight a route harder than anything I had ever climbed. Francois had never touched a weight, but god could he move. I resolved to learn how to move. After six months of doing nothing but climbing and studying climbing movement, I onsighted a route harder than anything I’d ever redpointed. So forget weights, strength, supplements, learn how to move and your body will develop the strength necessary for the movements.

Get a room.

A number of folks feel the same way about you, CBS.

kevbone lacks backbone.

A moron weighs in with yet another unsupported sound bite. Attack the messenger, not the message.

And the Democrats would have a little credibility if they clean up their act first.

How'd it go? I've used mine on a 9mm. It worked, but the lever action was "sporty". "Very sporty."

I've rapped on an 8mm with a grigri.

Actually, I first saw the 'new larger pot' at REI and thought it would make an intriguing snow melting machine when 'mounted' to a simmerlite. The fins on the bottom lock into the supports with no chance of slippage. The down side is that the Jetboil pot is twice as heavy (with both top and bottom lids) as my Ti pot (12 oz. vs. 6 oz). Still, the weight penalty might be worth the faster melt times. And as Ride said, more sleep. Not sheep. (Not that there's anything wrong with that.)

I compared you to the average green vest. Not the person wearing said vest.

Brevity works, too. Not always. Live isn't always simple. Too bad some people can only think in Sound Bites.

'Mount'? He's not screwing a sheep here. Set pot on stove. Also freak, did you comprehend the description 'the new larger pots'? The average REI employee would recognize that he's talking about the new larger pot not the old smaller cup But, of course, you're smarter than the average green vest.

Go to the thriftstore and buy a nylon windbreaker. Anything else is just a waste of money.

Global warming

Climbing is dumb. So are s