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My wife bought me a #5 WC tech friend and some patagonia baselayer stuff

very few docs are doing allografts any more. The sterilization process necessary to negate the possibility of HIV/Hep transmission weakens the graft. Orthopedic Physicians Associates Surgeons in Seattle are the knee docs for the Sonics (Zorn), Mariners (Holland) and Seahawks (can't remember) and to my knowledge none of them recommends cadaver tendons. I don't think you will see reference to many professional athletes using cadaver tendons. I went to Zorn - he recommends hamstring, and Holland favors patella (but does hamstring as well). I recall seeing a graph showing the % hamsting vs. patella vs. allograft done over time, and hamsting is becoming the preferred method with allograft dropping off to single digits. I guess I'd be a bit leary of a surgeon that's recommending allograft. Either the hamstring or patella autograft will be stronger in the long term. Also, your body eventually revascularizes the autograph making it stronger in the long, long term. Patella used to be stronger than the hamstring, but now I think the composite hamstring graft (semitendinosis/gracillis) is stronger than the patella. Most surgeons have a preferred autograph - either hamstring or patella, and you pretty much pick the method when you choose the surgeon. I chose the hamstring as there's lower incidence of patella tendonitis, and less long-term frontal knee pain. My wife had patella ~ 20 years ago from an excellent surgeon (Cal Berkeley athletics surgeon) and still can't kneel on hard surfaces without pain. Do a lot of asking around about surgeons, and be sure and talk to a really good PT. They will know a lot about reputation in the local area. I'm nine months out now and feeling really good and strong.

When were marchin the animals 2x2 what in God's green earth are we going to pair with TTK??? (species and gender)

Ryan - no one understands you injury and healing timeline better than your Ortho....why are you asking us? One thing you consider is that regardless of the speed of bone healing, you will undoubtedly have a great deal of atrophication, and with inadequate muscle strength to stabilize joints (knee, ankle, etc.) you may be at higher risk of injury to areas not directly related to your initial injury. Again, the ortho or a PT is the appropriate person to evaluate your functional stability. A good PT will tyipcally have exposure to patients of many different surgeons, and might be able to give you feedback on the reputation of your surgeon relative to others - specifically as it relates to their conservatism for post-injury return to activity. Unless you discover they are notoriously conservative, I'd take the advice of your surgeon.

SH....plagiarism is a sin

I suppose you are right being that I was not actually present during the last hundred years of archeology……as they dug up our forefathers bones…..so I just have to believe it was not all a hoax….of course I can go to the museum and see and touch the evidence….on the other hand what evidence is there that Jesus actually lived? NONE. What evidence is there that Caesar Augustus lived?....buncha written accounts??? The archaeological evidence of many old and new testament sites is no less relevant to biblical factualism than the fossil record is to evolution. I was not arguing if Caesar actually lived……but there is evidence of humans thousands of years ago…..that’s thousands of years ago…..and if I learned anything from Sunday School….Jesus lived 2007 years ago…..so it would seem from physical evidence that evolution makes more sense. I don’t believe the bible accounts for humans….say 10,000 years ago….yet we have the technology to date human remains back that far…..MMMM?????? Evidence of "humans"....yes....physical evidence of any particular human, save some Pharoahs who were buried in their own fucking pyramid that took thousands of slaves to build????....not so much.

Teachings regarding the origin of man (evolution/creation) are religion and have no place in the public school Kevbone may find himself in hell if he doesn't get lost on the way Despite the fact that the US is not a Christian nation (per the constitution), every bad thing our goverment has done in recent history (to slaves, Native Americans, the Japanese, the Iraqis)is the Christians fault. TTK's use of revese psychology - aka embracing the fat-fuck bitch-titty persona thinking that by not acting offended by it, it might actually die down is not working. It is alive an well and all we are waiting on now is a new avatar.

I suppose you are right being that I was not actually present during the last hundred years of archeology……as they dug up our forefathers bones…..so I just have to believe it was not all a hoax….of course I can go to the museum and see and touch the evidence….on the other hand what evidence is there that Jesus actually lived? NONE. What evidence is there that Caesar Augustus lived?....buncha written accounts??? The archaeological evidence of many old and new testament sites is no less relevant to biblical factualism than the fossil record is to evolution.

thanks, but what I asked for was a #5 tech friend

Jeremiah 12 1 You are always righteous, O LORD, when I bring a case before you. Yet I would speak with you about your justice: Why does the way of the wicked prosper? Why do all the faithless live at ease?

That actually happened to me at a party once. Well we've solved the mystery of what happened to JC's double-d rack

Which school did you go too? Are you high? There is so much evidence that points to evolution its scary.....on the other hand all you have of evidence of God is a book that humans wrote.....mmmmmmm KB - pretty sure that all the evidence of evolution that you are referring to you read about in a book that humans wrote, or on a website that humans coded, or on a TV show that humans produced.

They've been making whole viruses from scratch since 2002, bacteria's not far off. source? Is your Google broken? virus creation gets me a bunch of computer virus references - so at least give me some keywords....who's THEY? Is it a chemical reaction in conditions representative of the famous "primordial soup"???....do tell ahhh...http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2539-scientists-build-polio-virus-from-scratch.html Scientists have built the virus that causes polio from scratch in the lab, using nothing more than genetic sequence information from public databases and readily available technology....... Paul and her colleagues used chemical techniques to produce large segments of DNA corresponding to portions of the polio virus. They made one segment themselves, then ordered the rest from a company that routinely machine-generates DNA. Once they had all the segments, the team pasted the pieces together to produce one long stretch of DNA. They then used a commercially available enzyme to convert the DNA into RNA - the genetic form of the polio virus. Finally, they added the RNA to a soup made from human cells. This enabled the RNA to use the cellular machinery to create the proteins that complete the virus particles. The result was an infectious agent that could destroy cultured human cells and paralyse or kill mice in much the same way as the normal polio virus. No intelligent design at work here....all they needed were some human cells...wait a second....how would those get in the primordial soup

They've been making whole viruses from scratch since 2002, bacteria's not far off. source? Is your Google broken? virus creation gets me a bunch of computer virus references - so at least give me some keywords....who's THEY? Is it a chemical reaction in conditions representative of the famous "primordial soup"???....do tell

They've been making whole viruses from scratch since 2002, bacteria's not far off. source?

FW - what this tells me is that we were able, under conditions they thought were similar to early atmospheric conditions (later found to be incorrect) to synthesize roughly 1/2 of the essential amino acids. Not a living cell, or even a cell at all, but proteins. Also interesting is that was 54 years ago. 54 years later, with many brilliant minds literally wracking their brains to take this experiment to the next level, and still no success. The question is how many of the worlds most intelligent minds in science will it take to demonstrate that life could have just happened without any intelligence.

no, actually they'd say that a new species coudl well emerge in just a few hundred years, which is virtually no time at all in the fossil record, and could therefore by easily missed again, you're missing the point, the existence of evolution has zero to do w/ the existence of god - darwin believed in god and contemplated a life in the ministry prior to becoming a naturalist - einstein was no atheist. if there is a creator-god, clearly the numerous laws of science (thermondynamics, gravity, light, evolution, etc) were part of that creation... The entire history of evolution from the evolution of life from non-life to the evolution of vertebrates from invertebrates to the evolution of man from the ape is strikingly devoid of intermediates: the links are all missing in the fossil record, just as they are in the present world of course I beleive created law and order to his creation. SH...despite the fact that we are on the same team, I'd caution you to appropriately cite the sources from which you are cutting and pasting. Four lines with no spelling errors is a smoking gun if I ever saw one.

funny, that's the subject of my first day after the break the fall of rome seems to largely have been caused by christians and a general spread of idiots w/n the general population at large who were content to watch their leaders spend vast fortunes on foreign wars while totally neglecting the poor and downtrodden among them - but then, jayb's the one who actually read all of gibbon's classic on the subject, so maybe he'd chime in, if he weren't tired already of taunting the trogdolytes i would agree that evolution is not 1000% necessary for the teachign of my subject, but then, nothing is. if you don't like evolution though, please get the fuck out of my public school system and study whatever gets you off w/ the rest of your snake-handling ilk forgive the aggressive tone, btw - the in-laws are in town! Flying to the in-laws tomorrow so feel your pain. Fortunately the J-Tree trip was last week, so I can self-medicate with food and drink to numb the pain with no regards to the 5 lbs. I'll undoubtedly add to the mid-section.

Ahhh....why did Rome fall??? Well lets start with how old the sedimentary rock was that was under the building foundation.... Quite sure that starting with Ancient Mesopotamia be enough of a head start to get to these: stock-market, politics, current events, history, economics

except for the spontaneous creation of life with a chemical experiment that is

We've observed blackholes...we have not observed an experiment where life was spontaneously created by a chemical reaction to my knowledge.

It must be God's will. still waiting for references to experiments where life was spontaneously created...thanks....here til ~ 6pm

You can stand in front of a mirror and tell yourself whatever you want of it'll make yourself feel better, bud. After all, that's what you folks are trained to do. The U.S. Courts and public opinion don't quite gibe with your assessment, but then again, interpreting evidence (or presenting it) was never your strong suit. and still no answer

references to said experiments???

I'd say the tough shit is on your end, padre. The dumbshits you allow to represent you have been losing court cases by the bushel lately. Separation of church and state. Love it or leave it. If you don't like that in public schools, pony up the cash for private and STFU. let's make a deal...when you folks can spontaneously create life with a chemical reaction, you can teach evolution Nah. You come up with a non-religious competing scientific theory for evolution an we'll teach both. Oh, wait...you just tried that and lost. Deals? Why? Hey bud, we're already on top. 170 years of successfully tested theory and still going strong. Every day you delay just means more evidential proof for evolution. If you understood survival of the fittest, you might realize just how poor your bargaining position is at this point. If you can't explain why we'd NEED to teach evolution at all, why would I need to come up with a competing theory to teach along side it?....Still waiting. I'm declaring victory. Oh an by the way TTK, the miniscule gas mileage improvement of the smart car over other four-door subcompacts doesn't even begin to compensate for the lack of utility and safety.