StevenSeagal

Hoo flung poo?

Dinner tonight?

Do you have your strategy down yet, H?

Well... if I'd a known he was that good I'd have had him pack my bags for me.

We did it H...we're going home....YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

I'm not leaving you, H.

I love you, H.

No, but you'll get this:

kaskakakvondoveoveoeo said: Then he said: Huh. You sure talk like him.

Yeah he'll just send you here: APOCALYPSE NOW!!!!!!!!!

You mean like giving "special rights" to gays by prosecuting people who beat their heads in? Yeah. It's like they're trying to recruit us into being homo or something. The injustice. The ACLU is Out for Justice and that makes them one of the good guys. I don't understand why they are Under Siege.

Sorry, but this is for Dakota Fanning:

Well I will take an imperfect ACLU and the mission they stand for at least in principle over the neocon pipe dream of an omniscient, secretive big brother government that makes people vanish into anonymous torture prisons under the guise of "homeland security" without a shred of oversight, and uses fear and intimidation to silence critics. You still haven't answered the question- why should we expect the ACLU to also go after "our enemies"?

Was this before or after she accidently exposed her vagina for 22 minutes?

I'll agree that they are composed of a lot of sleazy lawyer types and it's a greasy organization. But you're avoiding the question- were the abuses wrong or not, should they be condemned or defended, and should those responsible be charged or not? If it just so happens that the ACLU is leading the charge, are you going to overlook a grave violation of human rights and a perversion of American values simply because you don't like the politics of the messenger?

The more I think about it, a better counter question for you is this: Do you, or do you not, think that what went on at Abu Grhaib, alleged abuse at Guantanamo, et.al,-- if all proven true- are acceptable things that were "necessary"? If so, then it seems Americans are sharply divided on what sort of values we want our country to espouse and what the concept of "freedom" represents in terms of our laws and legal system and then I don't know if that rift can be closed because it is so vast. If you think the above abuses were unacceptable, then why do you care that the ACLU and other agencies are not also pursuing al qaida and abuses in other countries? That isn't their job. I was under the impression that the ACLU is a domestic agency that concerns itself with watchdog activities in our own country to prevent abuse of government power. The analogy I'm making is that this is like chastising the Medford, Oregon police force for not pursuing lawbreakers in Miami, Florida. It's about upholding expected standards- and most Americans hold the US at a high standard. Everyone around the world already knows that Al-qaida, who are largely individuals identifying with no nation- has no standards at all. Eliminating their threat will come from military actions and cultural isolation that can only result from Middle Eastern countries coming up to speed with human rights- and if we don't set an admirable standard to present to them as a contrast to their own, WHO WILL DO IT?

That's the job of the military; and, because the erosion of our values isn't going to come from al qaida gleefully sawing people's heads off in foreign countries, it will take the form of citizens in our own country in positions of extreme power perverting our values and standards in order to further their own agendas. There is a reason we've evolved out of 14th century mentality of witchhunts, kangaroo courts, and torture chambers...oh wait, have we?

It's quite an accomplishment to have made it onto Dru's ignore list. Oh the irony.

Let me guess, on Day 20 you teabagged your partner in your sleep?

I warned you.

WTF? I trolled Dru Spotter almost 8 hours ago and still no response? He's slipping. I guess he's not that Hard to Kill.

My reply was in answer to dechristo's question. But hey, if you feel it applies to you then knock yourself out I easily could do that you know...but why would I? My bad...easily confused because kevbone for better or worse is trying to become my toadie.

Go eat a dick, clownpuncher. You're not Above the Law either.

Dammit! kevbone why do YOU have to be my biggest fan here? Why don't you go fluff pink for awhile before I send you Into the Sun.