StevenSeagal

Fuck bolts, politics, and religion. It's time for something entirely different. Ogden deserves his own thread. Discuss: qtWcb0bcA-A

Sounds like a colon scraper to me!

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Been suckin' Seahawk off, have you?

Really....I think it is "awesome"! Really.... I think there are probably only 2 other people whose opinion i care less about than yours. you annoy me to no end Does this sort of sum up how you feel? qtWcb0bcA-A

Yeee! Bethy! And after only 5 months of rehearsal! So....do you get extra points if you're a gurl? :lmao: Hey Raindawg- it's "GRRRRRRRRL!!!", FYI! Do you understand now, Gary? Told you so.

Alright Gary. Just for you. It's gone. My ponytail is extra sensitive now. I'm Steven. Steven Seagal. It matters not... :irony: I didn't have to post. I was just foretelling the future.

Soldiers of Fortune...

Stop this distraction, and support our troops, libturd.

So did the endorsement go something like this: : "this man'll make a great commander 'n chief......even if he's got one 'dem black babies..."

Now that is the "tightest ship in the shipping business". I wonder how many big loads she has delivered?

You need to support our troops, libturd.

I guess your right, telling her to get in touch with Layton might have been a pretty mean thing to do.

Yes, sprawl = progress. It means more people with the money to live where they want, in their own home, with a little land. Everywhere you look, sprawl is associated with freedom and wealth. Or, does it mean poor planning with no foresight, driven by monied interests? Sure looks like it: And the resources used to supply, feed, transport all those people take up how more more space?

Okay then, back on topic: From www.rushlimbaugh.com today: Well, I hate to say I told you so, but,

...isn't that what krishnamurti especially excoriated his listeners not to do? yeah of course. that was pretty central. but think of the difficulty this sets up for a young inquisitive mind looking for meaning and answers in a culture seemingly bereft of them: here's a fellow who seems to saying a lot of shit that makes sense. but in the end, it's HIS game, right? there's no way i could have digested his game so entirely as to be completely independent of it, at that time. especially when his game was quite revolutionary and "out there" for me, ie. not only intellectually challenging, but emotionally as well. i didn't have "solidity" in my own life, and here's a guy presenting "answers", see? and no, the irony of it all wasn't lost on me, and as a matter of fact made it even harder, cuz here's a dude saying "this is the way it is" (which he was, in many ways, no matter his disclaimers, AND I COULDN'T ARGUE WITH HARDLY ANY OF IT, CUZ IT RANG TRUE!), yet saying "don't listen to me for answers.". anyways, that was my uncomfortable dilemma which may or may not make sense, but to read about his foibles was actually liberating for me at the time.... I just read through that- very interesting, a lot about the man's personal life I had never heard before. Indeed, "don't listen to me" somewhat contradicts the strident message of relationship he advocated; at the same time his teachings about the dangers of psychological adherance to authority remain important. It makes you wonder. Since virtually all spiritual figures have been demonstrated to have led lives that were hypocritical or at least inconsistent with what they taught...can one see through/beyond the 'speaker' and remain focused strictly on the message to find out whether what is being said is true or not? I have always had doubts about K just like I do about anyone, but I also notice that people are quick to dismiss the message when the messenger is proven to not practice what they preach. Indeed, it's an eye opening perspective, especially in k's case, to realize what was written in the end of the link: "if he can't live it, who can?". Having understood and digested that, I remain convinced that despite his own failings, there remains a great deal of truth in the things he asserted.

...isn't that what krishnamurti especially excoriated his listeners not to do? I'll have to read it, it sounds interesting.

I found this part more interesting:

"stick it to the man"? wtf, don't even try to equate his acts with some generic "revolutionary" "protest" act by using that term. his motives were purely monetary. OK, maybe not the best example, but the point was that setting fires in vacant buildings isn't necessarily something where no one gets hurt. Agree the fire marshall made a poor call, but I'm sure you are not suggesting that an arsonist shouldn't be held accountable for his actions? The marshall wouldn't have had to make the poor call if Pang hadn't torched the building in the first place. A drunk driver usually doesn't have any intention of hurting anyone but they still get charged with manslaughter if they kill someone. You seem agitated by something...a trifle angry, perhaps. Would you like to come into the temple for tea and scintillating discussion?

For the record, I would also much like to see great restraint in development and to see our society shift to more sustainable living arrangements and methods of transportation- I think we are actually going to be forced by economics and reality to do so, it would just be nice to see it done by choice of will rather than coercion or duress. But this action, if it was by ELF, was stupid, wasteful, and potentially dangerous, and was a product of someone's violent, self centered political agenda, nothing more. Anyone who applauds it in tacit support can't possibly be seeing the problem in anything other than fragments. Since someone mentioned it, if it turns out to be the developers enacting an insurance fraud, then I find this equally deplorable for they double-wasted the resource by building something that wasn't demanded and then destroyed precious materials so they could cash in anyway. And either way, being that I am environmentally concerned, this was just fucking stupid. I'd like to see oil consumption greatly reduced, but I'm not going to go blow up the Alaska pipeline or a nearby gas station. Likewise, I would like to think that most of those opposed to abortion, as another example, don't support killing doctors and blowing up clinics. People who commit acts of physical sabotage always think they are being so revolutionary and proactive, but it's a simply juvenile and poorly thought out reaction, at best. At worst, the consequences can be deadly and end up hurting people as collateral damage. Does anybody remember the Martin Pang warehouse fire? That was an insurance scam, alright, but 4 firemen died doing their job that night, all because this selfish prick thought he'd bypass the system and stick it to the man. I have no real love for land developers and housing magnates who charge into an area with grandiose plans that more often than not have no real perspective on local preferences, environmental concerns, or especially in long term consequences for the region-Ken Behring comes to mind.

I blew up a couple of chairlifts at Stevens, then burned down their day lodge.

My point, for the 3rd time: The developers WILL do EXACTLY that. Oh wait, you mean maybe ELF's big statement (if they really did it) might have them reconsidering their ways?

And the point of this thread- ELF is a bunch of phuckheads- expresses sympathy for developers...HOW? As for all else, look up "facetious". Oh wait.

You're right, I am now inspired to resist it. So what size house should we set as the standard, above which all should be burned? Should we check to see if anyone's inside, or should we resist population overload also? I'm going to go slash SUV tires and key some Hummer doors tonight- anyone want to join?