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i.e. admonishing China and Saudi Arabia for "human rights abuses" is pretty hypocritical when we are simultaneously in bed with them economically.

That's the pot calling the kettle black. Guantonamo, waterboarding, we have more than our share of dirt. Oh I agree with you 100 % here; but that truth doesn't change the truth implicit in my first statement, either.

The trade is debt. For all that we import from China, we borrow from them. China and Saudi Arabia hold most of our National Debt. Exactly. And being indebted to these two corrupt, human rights abusing, militant societies benefits us in the long run how?

Since when did shipping tens of thousands of American jobs- ranging from manufacturing to IT support to what have you- to other countries because we don't want to pay our own people what they are worth to do it- become synonymous with "Trade"? If it is, then how are we reciprocating this "trade"? A trade implies some sort of exchange. If the exchange is simply that we're "putting their people to work", then see my previous post. I am not anti-trade. I am, however, not supportive of policies being implemented by American companies which reduce opportunities and choices for American citizens.

All I can say is, I must have gotten the placebo, because the electro shock to my balls hurt just as bad after as it did before.

Al Qaida is Coming! It seems to me that if al Qaida is so intelligent and observant, that they would realize by now that increasing attacks against us is substantially more likely to help McCain get elected, given the Republicans 8 year mastery of using fear to mobilize voters, stifle opposition, sew domestic discord, and scare people into silence and/or complacency.

It's not simply that it's bothersome that stuff is made in another country, it's that it's being made in another country solely so that the manufacturer doesn't have to spend more paying living wages to domestic workers, because it's cheaper to pay people poverty wages in poor countries to do it. The idea that this somehow supports the economy in poor countries is nebulous- yes it provides jobs where there once were none or few, but is it really helping a country much having foreign influences control one's economy? Would we think it was helpful to our overall longterm welfare in the US if we all worked for foreign companies, knowing that the company's profits are being invested elsewhere? To me what this appears to do is to both deprive our own economy of jobs (and of course you can argue that "no one here wants to do many of these jobs") while simultaneously setting up an exploitative serfdom of sorts in other countries, under the guise of "helping them", which is pure hyperbole. I think it's also questionable whether outsourcing all our jobs really keeps our goods that much cheaper. Why is it in the company's interest to save the consumer money when they can pocket the profits themselves? This society has inbred immediate gratification to the point that consumers will pay whatever they have to in order to have something they want, and the vendor knows this.

On the subject of relativism... pPe1jhyf5sI

I just saw a list of the "Top 10 Hybrids for 2008". Half of them didn't even hit 30 MPG!!! WTF? There were cars in the 80's that got 40-60 mpg. Mention that to the car manufacturers and you hear BS like: "manufacturing those will sink the industry, too expensive". i.e. "our strings are pulled by the oil conglomerates".

Yes, think of the pride of accomplishment each Chinese peasant must feel in each $600 jacket that goes out the door that they were paid $0.14/week to construct. Why, I bet they see themselves owning the company some day, driving a Beamer and talking on a cell phone!

So basically what you're saying is: you're full of shit, and religion is kinda like your laxative?

Yes....so? Ok then. Looks like Minx needs an "adjustment"...you have the authority. You do.

So kevbone, are you in the teacher training program?

Thanx to Porter for keeping this thread on track. That Indian guy was the best!! I kicked his ass, though.

Gay.....just like you my friend. Oh well. Being that you're the connoisseur of all things gay, who am I to argue?

Here's an excerpt from said boner/seacocks forum, were it to exist: f2Bx2Iha2lc

Who said it was 6k old? You bet your horse I'll bet mine. In the end I don't loose a thing if I'm wrong. You loose big time if your wrong. But you keep hating it will get you somewhere someday. When I read that ealier I thought is was pretty cool. A group of people migrated over to the world here. Wonder why people didn't evolve here too?? Maybe the soup wasn't right here. Since I last smacked you down, I've converted to Evangelicalism. It IS 6000 years old! And I encourage you to get on board with this fact because God loves you, and if you're wrong on this, well, actually, you will be going STRAIGHT TO HELL MOTHERFUCKER!!! I urge you to start speaking in tongues right now. I'd hate to see you drowned in a lake of fire by our loving saviour. I'm praying for you, brother.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080313/ap_on_sc/native_american_dna;_ylt=Aq6kp12nBgfw_HlZ7N012UADW7oF Hey Seahag, how is this possible? I thought the world was only 6000 years old? Are these scientists riding a greased pole to hell, or what?

That's only because, as one of Rush's mouth breathing minions, you've only been hearing of late all the horrible evil things Barack Obama is going to do to destroy this country, since he seems most likely to be running against McCain- for now. The second Hillary gains the upper hand, you'll suddenly be shoveled a whole new pile of Hillary=AntiChrist (which she is, actually) info to make sure you make the correct voting choice this fall. How was the lineup for the Matterhorn? Were conditions good?

Porter! Help me out here. I tried to move us along. I really did. The above threads just keep growing, Jay is still finishing his economic thesis, Prole still hates America, KKKKK still hates everyone, kevbone is still stupid, Archie's gone, and now Seahawks is even back. Doesn't anyone want to talk about Yoga?!?!? (or Yoda)?

He climbed the "Matterhorn". Here's his summit photo:

Did Obama personally invent that double standard or has it already been endemic in our culture for, like, 25 years?

Hey what's up there, Shitbird? Long time no spray. You must have been out climbing! And you even gave us some tripe from the "liberal media", ABC. It's obvious Obama's a terrorist, isn't it? I mean, his middle name is Hussein, after all, and let's not remind us all of what his last name rhymes with! Thanks for stopping by!

Looks like somebody forgot to eat their Goji berries...

Much better avatar, couloir.