ClimbingPanther

Yeah, and I lost my post I had so beautifully written

A chance to get a MASSAGE by one of the more prolific climbers (or at least profane) in the PNW? Sign me up!

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A few years, eh? Good, so if you replace all your lights with fluorescents now, you won't ever have to buy another bulb! Then when the LED's come out you can switch to them. How are they shaping up for cost/longevity/[light] temperature/etc.? As if I couldn't google it. But you seem to know, so do tell!

Hey everybody, There is becoming less and less reason to own a single regular old light bulb and more and more reason to switch over to fluorescent bulbs in every fixture in your house. Wal-Mart is selling them very cheaply now, and anybody who gives a hoot about the energy and environmental crises we're creating should go buy these bulbs. And anybody who doesn't give a hoot as well, because they save you a -load of money over their lifetime because they use 1/4 the energy to run, and they last 10 times longer. 6-pack of [60 watt equivalent] bulbs are only $10, making them $1.67 per bulb. Since they last 10 times longer, I challenge you to find 10 60-watt bulbs for that price.

enelson, I agree NCLB isn't a perfect solution, but it's at least acknowledging that there's a problem that schools aren't teaching kids what they need to know in order to succeed. Cutting funding is probably the dumbest idea possible for fixing whatever problems may be there (reminds me of the Bible story about Pharaoh telling the Israelites to make bricks without straw), but making the school leaders responsible for turning their school around is definitely a positive mark for the law. No legislation is perfect (even the constitution has been amended how many times?) but NCLB at least acknowledged a problem and tries to fix it. Hopefully it will be a dynamic law and will be adapted to fit with what is being shown to work and what is bogus.

Spot on, man. For you still waiting for that list, I did previously note a couple things, No Child Left Behind is a very good concept to make schools accoutable to teach kids stuff they need to know The tax cut was theoretically a good first step, though the REPUBLICAN congress' (surprising?) love of pork along with the war has prevented the budget from remaining balanced (props to Clinton for doing that during his time)

Props to Mass. election officials who made a fail-safe system that people couldn't screw up with their own stupidity. Did anybody not see that coming? I mean, sure, we all heard about the idiots in Florida who couldn't figure out their ballots, but we're smarter than that, right? No, there was still a surprisingly large number of ballots rejected, and I dare say most were not informed voters simply using a purposely mis-marked ballot as a protest against the system. Whatever. If you're too stupid to read the directions, then you may not register an IQ worthy of deserving a vote. Granted, some may not have the written English skillz to decipher the directions, but those people are still responsible to have it interpreted or look stuff up in a foreign-english dictionary.

You're right, you did already explain your points. Sorry for asking. selkirk, why didn't you just come out and say you were trying to uncover peoples thoughts on bolting?

what is yours?

Sad but very true. The attack itself obviously united us for a while, but that had nothing to do with Bush, and he squandered the so-called "capital" he got. I agree that his bull-headed tactics and persona are really not becoming of a president. The impression I get is that he's stuck as a 2-year old, still trying to fit the square block through the round hole. He won't learn even from his own experience that he's polarizing the world against us by fighting this threat his way. You gotta have clear objectives first, then bring great minds together to figure out how to get those objectives. He and others high up [iMHO Cheney is a bigger problem even than Bush; Bush=just weak, Cheney=criminal if anyone is] seemed to want to start something in Iraq with no clear objectives besides "kill!", and they've repulsed many true thinkers away from them. To answer about things Bush has done that were good, I do like the concept of the No Child Left Behind act. Schools need to be held responsible when kids aren't learning what they need. I think the tax cuts were theoretically a good step, but they had to be followed by Congress trimming their pork to keep the budget balanced. I'm very ashamed to be a Republican when we can't control spending and get the budget balanced. Didn't we harangue on the Dem's for generations about their love to spend? Good grief!

Watch yourself You mess with one molecule, you mess with the whole mole. Don't tear people down because if you're not going to be part of the solution, then you're part of the precipitate. Maybe you're just in a bad mood because you got a toothache in your molar.

Yeah, montypiton, use terms we can all understand. Who can possibly deduce the common meaning of shock-load as it relates to climbing? For some definition fun, as per a google definition search, Definitions of shock load on the Web: * The arrival at a water treatment plant of raw water containing unusual amounts of algae, colloidal mater, color, suspended solids, turbidity, ore other pollutants. [typically found soon after a resident shock loads his toilet ] www.nsc.org/ehc/glossar2.htm

word, me too.

do you have stock in youtube?

Yeah, sweet pics & TR

Ha! There is definitely something fishy lately. Sometimes it loads fast, other times it's butt-slow, and sometimes when I click Active Topics, it says "you can not make another search at this time. please try again later" what gives? I demand faster free service!

depends on what you mean by "bush" never used to think I'd say this, but... no I feel like I've been taken advantage of, kinda like when the ate my shirt on the colchuck moraine

didn't know that. thanks DID know that from experience removing a tough sticker Won't be using THAT nalgene for backup rock protection anymore Dru, I already got the isopropanol packed willstrickland, thanks for that post about the soy based stuff. great info! don't know if I'll get my hands on it by tomorrow though

I know it's one ingredient in some products, but not being a girl, I don't know what else is in it and if the "else" is OK in mass quantities for the environment. It may not be as potent as pure acetone??? It's an option for sure. I'll be sure to take some with me.

not exactly... they're comparing equal volumes quote from said article: "A low surface area to volume ratio helps to conserve heat" fat people have a lower ratio. my point. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergmann%27s_Rule also my point.

Because they don't overheat while running since they lose a greater percentage of their body heat

There's a lot of factors at work here, and how fast a person cools down depends not only on their s.a.:mass ratio [fat-advantage], but as you say on their metabolic capacity to generate heat to replace what's lost. I don't know the difference between fat & skinny people's ability to generate heat, but if it's the same regardless of size, then things even out. If fat people can generate proportionately more heat, then they will definitely outlast a skinny person no matter what. Unless they're gored by an introverted mammoth.

CBS is right. Larger people have more heat stored inside their bodies proportionate to the amount of surface area, therefore what they lose due to their increased surface area is less significant. Try telling your oven that the 40 lb. Thanksgiving turkey you bought has more surface area than chicken nuggets.