Kimmo

i would like at least 3 examples of a "fact", since you are fluent in the language. just 3. maybe 10 if you get quite excited. OK...... I go by Coldfinger here--fact You go by Kimmo--fact Kevbone is funny--fact Not very hard is it? another strange one.... many think they are choada boy. is this a contagious situation?

i would like at least 3 examples of a "fact", since you are fluent in the language. just 3. maybe 10 if you get quite excited. It's strange that you think this is hard to do. what's strange is that you might think you are choada boy. are you? you know, in a metaphysical sense....

i would like at least 3 examples of a "fact", since you are fluent in the language. just 3. maybe 10 if you get quite excited.

my wife had it done some 6 years ago. legally blind in one eye and nearly so in the other. what, like 20/500 or so if i remember right? 20/20 or so after the surgery. no more glasses or contacts. she has mentioned lately that once in a while her vision is a little funky, but nothing compared to before; imagine trying to body surf with contacts whilst almost legally blind. scary. the only tramautic part was that i watched the procedure. it's weird how when the eyes become lifeless meat, you wonder where your loved-one went.

it seems to me that the very act of thinking about something is abstractive. does that mean "property" is an abstract in itself? only if you think about it! but seriously, it seems that possessiveness is built on an entirely primal drive, the drive to consume and devour and possess, perhaps older than the first prokaryote, older than the big bang, and perhaps (perhaps), it makes sense to collectively and legally cater to such a primitive powerful drive to some degree. i personally think we cater wayyyy too much, with our fetishizing of "property", "ownership" and the like, institutionalizing it to such a degree that we all take it as concrete and a given: the only possibility (look at wealth distribution, in america especially). also look at your statement above (also note the role the word "regard" plays in your thinking). personally, i think it's madness, this "mine mine mine". do i live my personal abstraction in its ideal form? no. i sometimes get irritated when my wife drinks the last of the cocoa puffs. yes, she drinks them. i did smile when my van got stolen. especially when i found it, and it was full of blankets and such (provided a home to some kids, judging by the cd's left behind. plus, i liked speakerbox!). but, i also suffer from road-rage. this is truly suffering.

a basic misunderstanding exists if you think it's about "other" people needing to "grow"; your "sadness" bears witness to this (not picking on you here). inre second point: i really don't know if there is any legal framework that addresses the issue at hand.

Hey 112. Wasn't directed at you, since you weren't calling for the guy's head. I could see what you were trying to get an explanation for, I think. but in my mind, like I said above, physically hurting someone is in a different category altogether than taking some quick-draws off a piece of public property (I'm not condoning qd theft btw). I simply don't see the comparison. It's actually kinda strange (and funny) that that people were (are) calling for violence as a "solution" to what this fellow did! "let ye who hath not sinned, cast the first stone."

2 years. here's one more: The Thief Who Became a Disciple One evening as Shichiri Kojun was reciting sutras a thief with a sharp sword entered, demanding either money or his life. Shichiri told him: "Do not disturb me. You can find the money in that drawer." Then he resumed his recitation. A little while afterwards he stopped and called: "Don't take it all. I need some to pay taxes with tomorrow." The intruder gathered up most of the money and started to leave. "Thank a person when you receive a gift," Shichiri added. The man thanked him and made off. A few days afterwards the fellow was caught and confessed, among others, the offence against Shichiri. When Shichiri was called as a witness he said: "This man is no thief, at least as far as I am concerned. I gave him money and he thanked me for it." After he had finished his prison term, the man went to Shichiri and became his disciple.

Sorry for calling any of you "hens". calls to violence always gross me out.... here's another good one: When Bankei held his seclusion-weeks of meditation, pupils from many parts of Japan came to attend. During one of these gatherings a pupil was caught stealing. The matter was reported to Bankei with the request that the culprit be expelled. Bankei ignored the case. Later the pupil was caught in a similar act, and again Bankei disregarded the matter. This angered the other pupils, who drew up a petition asking for the dismissal of the thief, stating that otherwise they would leave in a body. When Bankei had read the petition he called everyone before him. "You are wise brothers," he told them. "You know what is right and what is not right. You may go somewhere else to study if you wish, but this poor brother does not even know right from wrong. Who will teach him if I do not? I am going to keep him here even if all the rest of you leave." A torrent of tears cleansed the face of the brother who had stolen. All desire to steal had vanished.

There was one great master, a Buddhist master, Nagarjuna. A thief came to him. The thief had fallen in love with the master because he had never seen such a beautiful person, such infinite grace. The thief asked Nagarjuna, "Is there some possibility of my growth also? But one thing I must make clear to you: I am a thief. And another thing: I cannot leave it, so please don't make it a condition. I will do whatsoever you say, but I cannot stop being a thief. That I have tried many times--it never works, so I have left the whole sport. I have accepted my destiny, that I am going to be a thief and remain a thief, so don't talk about it. From the very beginning let it be clear." Nagarjuna said, "Why are you afraid? Who is going to talk about your being a thief?" The thief said, "But whenever I go to a monk, to a religious priest, or to a religious saint, they always say, 'First stop stealing.'" Nagarjuna laughed and said, "Then you must have gone to thieves; otherwise, why? Why should they be concerned? I am not concerned!" The thief was very happy. He said, "Then it is okay. It seems that now I can become a disciple. You are the right master." Nagarjuna accepted him and said, "Now you can go and do whatsoever you like. Only one condition has to be followed: be aware! Go, break into houses, enter, take things, steal; do whatsoever you like, that is of no concern to me, I am not a thief--but do it with full awareness." The thief couldn't understand that he was falling into the trap. He said, "Then everything is okay. I will try." After three weeks he came back and said, "You are tricky--because if I become aware, I cannot steal. If I steal, awareness disappears. I am in a fix." Nagarjuna said, "No more talk about your being a thief and stealing. I am not concerned; I am not a thief. Now, you decide! If you want awareness, then you decide. If you don't want it, then too you decide." The man said, "But now it is difficult. I have tasted it a little, and it is so beautiful--I will leave anything, whatsoever you say. Just the other night for the first time I was able to enter the palace of the king. I opened the treasure. I could have become the richest man in the world--but you were following me and I had to be aware. When I became aware, diamonds looked just like stones, ordinary stones. When I lost awareness, the treasure was there. And I waited and did this many times. I would become aware and I became like a buddha, and I could not even touch it because the whole thing looked foolish, stupid--just stones, what am I doing? Losing myself over stones? But then I would lose awareness; they would become again beautiful, the whole illusion. But finally I decided that they were not worth it."

No it doesn't. Quick-draws can't testify in court, but a black eye and a punched mouth sure can. Lots of vigilantes on this site, apparently. Three cheers for the climbing "community"! you seem to think it's simply an issue of "getting caught"? what about the ethics of violence? i hardly equate the taking of gear left on public property with causing bodily injury to someone. the notion of "property" is a bit abstract to begin with, whereas violence is very concrete. not that the internet tough-guys spouting for violence here would have (most likely) done anything. well, i guess the fellow was kinda skinny and frightened. easy prey for internet tough guys. let the hens commence with pecking.

how much for your hueco guide?

but, i do like tim's (i think that's the guy doing the talking) school-teacherly lecture! "14a is a serious grade."

i found three draws on a route once. i took them. being poor (and young), i thought i had just found some nice booty. i also hope nobody has taken the 40+ draws i have hanging around on various lines in the northwest! and, do i feel this guy is the lowest scum-bag for grabbing some draws off a cliff that someone else left behind? no, not really. i can't say i really know what was going through his mind, and what his history is.

i'm sure we could get to the bottom of this over a bottle of lagavulin sometime. your treat, from the sound of things.

fixed that for ya i kinda wonder about the neighborhood you live in, with the nannies and the gardeners and the housekeepers etc. i'm kinda thinking this ain't the set most affected by the downturn, doncha think?

so once the market supports higher rents, you will stop being a pretty good landlord?

i guess we need a new accountant

just a wee bit frigid out there this time of year, no?

you're back to some kinda babbling about "real estate" and "misallocation" again! the "rich" do more investing than saving, btw.

"thanks to the tax breaks, I have 2 million more to invest in the Renminbi! just think of all the jobs that'll create!"

pay attention: it helps the poor by pumping up commodity prices through wise investments in hot private equity funds.

Not a good analogy. I don't use Verizon. I have no choice in paying taxes. heh, it doesn't matter much whether you use verizon specifically or not. no matter who you use, you are contributing.

How is overpaying ferry workers by millions of dollars per year beneficial to the common folk? Particularly in an environment where the said millions could be used to fund public defenders, social services, etc, etc, etc? http://www.king5.com/news/local/Investigators-10-million-spent-on-extras-for-group-of-state-employees-97113379.html look at my quote box above. your question is a non-sequiter.

i would argue that we all contribute to ceo pay packages, as surely as we contribute to the terribly overpaid ticket taker's pay package, through things like cost of services, inflationary pressures, lack of equitable taxation etc etc and many other externalities (ie percentaqge of income spent on necessities).