JosephH

Now that's funny...!

Jessep: You want a forum? Kevbone (Tom Cruise): I think we're entitled to one. Jessep: You want a forum? Kevbone : I want the forum! Jessep: You can't handle the forum! Son, we live in a world that has walls. And those walls have to be climbed by men with gear. Who's gonna do it? You? You and Veronica Hardbody? I have a greater moderator responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep for Stewart and you curse the cracks he fell from. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know: that Stewart's injuries, while tragic, probably saved lives because folks now stop at Ozone. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives...You don't want the forum. Because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. We post to threads with words like honor, code, loyalty...we use these words as the backbone to a life spent ascending something. You use 'em as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and falls under the shadow of the very climbs I provide, then questions the manner in which I provide them! I'd rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a rack and put one up. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you're entitled to! Kevbone : Did you chop that bolt? Jessep: (quietly) I did the job you sent me to do. Kevbone : Did you chop that bolt? Jessep : You're goddamn right I did!! Jessep : Bacon forum? You can't handle a friggin' bacon forum!

did that, andrew... i'm a weak free climber - would rather aid I need to find Rosetta Stone's free climbing! Bullshit! I've climbed with you and you are entirely as capable of doing it as me, pink, or anyone else. You, like Ivan, Geoff and a couple of others, would just have to somewhere come up with a level of motivation and interest to make the work involved worth it for you.

Pink's telling the word there. It's a lot like Windsurfer in that it's almost more about sticking the rests and jamming the climbing between them. That and it's a stemming / chimney exercise a bunch of the time.

There you go, Moby Grape / Reppy's is a must do NE line though I'm not sure how you compare MG with LW, both at 5.8 - one is long and granite, the other short and basalt - both are classics and very high on the fun meter, however.

Well, then what is your favorite climb in NE? I spent a couple of years there climbing at Cannon, Ragged, Joe English, Crow Hill, and the Gunks. Hard to beat.

Huh? Wait, that is the final (albeit short) pitch of YW, the other way is finishing the Corner up to the base of the ridge ramp. Never really thought about those blocks as 'hanging' or loose in any way. I'd say consider not worrying about them, they're fine, and that pin is fine, too. The real question is: do you move up and left at the last bolt doing the 'Opdycke finish' or bail up and right around the corner?

FFA.OW = Noob.DeathTrap

Yeah, that old crew is either retired, moved, or ass deep in diapers.

Keep in mind that includes inefficiencies and redundancies in each of the thousands of insurance companies which are themselves incredibly redundant in every respect, but especially so in claims processing. I'm guessing administrative and systems redundancies actually run more like 75-85% over a single payer clearing house.

If I'm doing the driving, then the best climb at Index is at Squamish. For favorite I'd probably go with FFA > Dods > Dastardly to the trail. It's what I take folks up who want a representative slice of Beacon. If they can't do 5.10 then I'll take them up YW or the Corner instead.

It doesn't. Don't use wire brushes.

Welcome to Wall Street and trading in general - at least we've largely moved it out of the pits. But, then again, things could only happen as as fast as people could talk back when trading happened in pits.

I spray my share here, but I'm usually much quieter than either Ivan or Kevbone out at the crag - those guys are like walking AM radios and both should be talk radio hosts or DJs. I pretty much just like to get on with my business when I'm out and don't really say anything or make noises when I'm on rock.

I'll take three of the biggest LA's. And hey, you don't need any of that shit to come out and get worked at Beacon with the rest of us.

Look, I've witnessed Ivan's 'normal day out' and I'm here to tell you there's nothing 'normal' about it. The minute Ivan rolls into the parking lot, 'normal' starts heading for the tourist trail and I not sure I can recall ever seeing him do anything 'normal' out at Beacon. I'm guessing if I were to actually stick around and bear witness it would be the scariest thing I'd see every week. In fact, I'll go out on a limb here and say there is nothing 'normal' about Ivan. And maybe that's part of his charm - online and off - and also why he's always doing something pretty damn strange. And while Ivan's take on strange isn't anything like my own, he does embody the very essence of my post-40 climbing motto and mantra: "If you can't climb hard, climb strange..." Now I'll admit it's a little eaiser to live up to that motto if you're Ivan or me, but I like to think there's a little something there for everybody. Take Bill Coe for instance, he does a lot of strange shit on a fairly regular basis - usually just when you think you have him figured out - but he's still as popular and healthy as ever (o.k. that knee thing didn't work out so well, but you never want to count him down and out for long). And Opdycke? Hell, the very definition of making strange seem normal. Come to think of it, it's hard to think of almost anyone who has ever climbed out at Beacon on a regular basis that isn't pretty damn strange on any given day. McGown? No need to even ask. [Old] Kenny? Don't get in his way. Larry? Healthy and sound as a bent penny. Stewart? Gett-outa-here. Pink? What's your guess? Kevbone? Hell, he's running a 1000:1 spray-to-TR ratio here so he's about as strange as they come - we hear about it anytime Kev goes climbing because, between work, home and kids, a trip to Ozone is a veritable expedition despite the fact it has all the outward appearances of a quick trip to the gym. And, o.k., a lot of the new kids do seem kind of normal; but we don't really know all that much about most of them yet, and you have to admit the ones we do seem like maybe they've been bent, folded, and mutilated a couple of times (or are about to be). I guess for me it boils down to the old saw that people who live in glass Gerbil wheels shouldn't flip shit at others. Oh, and pink - that college shit is way over rated - these days if you look at 95% of college grads they're all just sitting at a box typing. It's virtually impossible to tell what one may be doing different from the next screen-lit automaton (myself included) except by carefully analyzing their mouse click logs. Sad truth is, mostly they're just shit-talking on their forum-of-choice in order to see something even more pointless than their own lives staring back at them every fifteen minutes in a vain attempt to cling onto something to live for. Given your alternatives at 10:16 on any given morning, Ivan's TRs friggin' rule...

I'm the one who's into toothpicks. Bill is all about major artillery. And I'm glad he is as the high anchor on my new line is two of those 7" babies punching through the outer bookpage-like sheets of rock that chunk of face is made of.

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So, go_up, do you get out and go up much?

Damn you Bill Coe - I thought you were on a 12-step gear program and that "I already have too much gear"? I know, I know - you can never have too much puddin'...

My vote everytime. Go to Sydney, head up to Katoomba and the Blue Mountains, and enjoy. Perfect, but then I'm a standstone guy... Ha, that is where I am headed got any suggestions? As for the original question if not Australia, then I'd say South Africa. I been a on a couple short trips, but I can't wait to get back for an extended stay. I don't have any specific recommendations, but when you stare out past the Three Sisters in any direction you are staring at about 500 lifetimes of brilliant FA potential - literally miles upon miles of rock. A short walk or drive in pretty much any direction gets you to untold bounty that is reminisent of alternating layers of Eldo and New River Gorge. You could go to one of the established 'climbing areas' to socialize or take the family, but otherwise it's just more wide-open unclimbed rock and cliff bands than I've ever seen anywhere. Pretty much paradise except for the dense flocks of parrots and giant cockatoos relentlessly gnawing awaying on the trim of everyone's houses and cars.

Again, advertising is about awareness - people take it from there. Advertising, by mainstreaming climbing into suburban pop culture and imagery, just insures that boatloads of people whom would otherwise stick with motocross, dogging, off-roading, sport bars, cross-dressing, RC models, and clogging will unfortunately be heading to the nearest plastic shack to give climbing a go.

Sex is the quintessential currency and for all practical purposes spawned the entire notion of 'sponsorship' thousands of years ago.

My vote everytime. Go to Sydney, head up to Katoomba and the Blue Mountains, and enjoy. Perfect, but then I'm a standstone guy...