DirtyHarry

I'm sure, like most issues in the climbing community, you will find an unequivocal concensus on this issue.

I don't even think france has a hockey team, dumbass

You're soooo fucking out of your element!! "Maneater" is one of the best kareoke songs of ALL TIME!!!

An Argument. Some suggested topics: Is it OK to bolt in the alpine? Is it OK to fuck fat girls? If you could lick your own balls, should you? Dogs at Crags? Is it OK to drink boxed wine? Are gay cowboys really cowboys? Should JosephH chop Ingnorant Bitch? Does Mike Layton really exist? Hows Da Wedder? Hall & Oates or Pantera? Who would you least rather be stuck in a tent with for 4 days - Gary Ygevne or Michael Jackson or David Hasselhof in a bikini? Should wolves and grizzly bears be reintroduced into Seattle? Mavs or Heat? Rattlesnake vs. Coyote vs. Ninja ? lycra vs. Schoeller vs. Painter Pants ?

day 4 and i am still a non smoker. I'd give you 12 hrs max before you're puff puffing again. You'll never be able to quit. Sorry.

You ever been too drunk to fish?

Then you have less cams.

While it may be true that they walk less, it wouldn't be because of the reasons you cite. Bullshit. My emperical experience trumps all your fancy science, lab boy.

What a FUN FACT. Did you read that on the back of a cereal box?

You can open a wine bottle with a #0 micronut apparently. Good tip to know in a survival situation.

I hear you can smoke salmon by just using your breath and a nalgene bottle.

Personal preference. I personally like camalots because thay have a smoother and less tensioned action and hence are less likely to walk.

Word. Too bad the dumbfuck thieves didn't rip off a fish farm instead of most of the returning spring chinook here. Hope they catch those assholes - probably some methheads like the losers that cut down and sell old growth on the Olympic peninsula.

Upside down, sideways camhooks. But truthfully, if I had a hammer and pins at the time I probably would have used them. Nice work, BTW. You guys will crush in Yosemite.

Dude, you are likewise one misinformed human. Farmed seafood is a purely for profit industry that is bad for the environment and ecosystem and produces a tasteless disgusting product. HATCHERY fish rearing, on the other hand, is a state (Fish and Wildlife)action that supplements and substitutes the natural process of fish spawning because of the decimation of natural fish populations due to destruction of spawning habitat, water quality, dams, and fishing. Natural salmon runs still exist in Washington, but most purely natural runs are gone from Washingtons rivers and are completely dependant on hatcheries for their existence. Farmed salmon operations are primarily located in the Washington and BC coastal areas (primarily BC because Canada has less strict enviro reg's). This process involves huge holding pens for growing east-coast salmon, a completley different species. Farmed fish is bad because the high concentrations of fish food and fish shit fuck up the water quality and because these fish escape and may breed with native salmon fucking up the genetics.

Speaking of rubber snakes, I always wanted to put a rubber rattlesnake on the trail at the Sunshine Wall at Vantage on a busy spring day and watch the mayhem. Tee hee.

Once I thought I saw a large group in the mountains, but it turned out it was just Dru's mom.

Hatchery fish aren't farmed fish. These fish spawn in the hatchery but live their lives in the wild. The only place they farmed salmon is in saltwater. Maybe you should at least sorta know what you're talking about before you get on your soapbox.

No need for pins on this route, cam hooks work FINE.

Those things are spreading faster than herpes at a snowboarder convention in Whistler.

Yeah, I've never actually seen any kayakers kayak, they're always just driving around with their tupperwares on their subarus looking at the river.

Well I couldn't have done it, I was with Ms. Peach in the kitchen with the spatula.

OK dude, who was it that gave the beta and hasn't been on the route? Colonel Mustard, Professor Plum, who?

Good info Pax. But you don't really need a rack, just climb it in July or August and clip all the gapers wearing full shank mtneering boots that you pass on the route.

Yes, she's done Minnesotan multi-pitch-style clambering before. I did a route called "Caveat Emptor" (a Jim Beyer route) up in Death Canyon in the Tetons, that I would recomend. It wasn't alpine and didn't go to a summit (but that might be better considering the time of year), but was super good crack climbing - I'd say physical 10a, about Grade III+. With the approach is more or less a days outing. There was also a popular 5.9 next door which is also supposed to be good, but I can't remember what its called. Caveat Emptor was one of the funner routes of that type I've done.