powderhound

LOL

thank you, now the rest of us are off the hook. Bill and Paul were some of the bnest people that I have ever climbed with. these comments do not speak about the status of the climber and how much I like or dislike them. This post was about the general atmosphere that surrounds most crags in oregon. This "its my crag mentallity" which fuels egos and then when something happens that they don't like step back because shit is going to hit the fan. Take for example places like beacon, ozone, Elk, trout, these areas that where people think that they have ownership over the area. Comments about we can't publish an area because only ten people can climb there at once is a horrible basis for an argument. Its like Well we should not put up a swing set in the park because we can't provide swings for all 100 kids running around. ever heard a concept called shairng????

I am gald you paid attention to waht I said. I was describing the expirence that I had this summer "ROCK CLIMBING" in oregon, not what someone was spraying about on the internet. There is a distinct difference between what you read and say on CC.com and what feel happens ouside.

I am so glad that you are a active memberin the bozeman climbing community that you can speak so definetley. What your name agian?

Is it easier to ask this question then to look on the black diamond website? If you can find this site then you can find the price of the reactors.

Okay, so after spending a summer in Oregon and climbing with a variety of indiviuals, I a have a couple of things to say about the climbing community. 1st: generaly everyone acts top secret and hush hush and that is a bunch of bulshit. Thwe world would be a far better palce if more people climbed. Besides just because you "found" or developed an area does not under any circumstances give you any rigths or say over the area unless it is your personal property. this type of attitude that is exhibited here in this thread elitest and nonproductive. Whuy would you want to deny someone else the activity that brings so much joy in your life. Do you feel as though you are some how entilted? I hope not. Oregon does not have a general guide book and it is about time. Now of course the first one is not going to be good but I didn't see you sticking your neck out there. Now I may have a biased opinion but in the climbing community bozeman is very open about new areas and the more information that is out there the better. So those of you who hold some inclination that you are deserving of climbing at a certian area and others are not need to get off you high horse and get a life. It is such bulshit that you explored these area on your own. Often you hear about them from other climbers and then you go. But that only worked when the climbing community was small. I do not belive for a second that you were all just wandering around and found your shitty secret crags. peace out Let the surly commments begin.

Well I have decided that I am going to keep these suckers because the reactors are not what I wanted them to be. So you all missed your chance.

Looks like it went off without a hitch, wish I was there. Now you all are ready to come out to bozeman to climb some real ice. It is snowing outside right now, and this weekend will be ice time.

I am really sorry to hear about that. My thoughts and prayers are with you and his family.

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Bill you are man's man.

try a guide book at an actual climbing shop.

Free Beer,I am missing out on all the good events, wish i could be there to join in on the fun.

thanks

anyone have a picture of this rock?

This pertains more to alpine and multipitch then craggin. But everyone should know that.

anyone know when the dealine for the AAJ is?

Buddy that works right nect to the sphinx, and said it was in last week but feel down with the warm weather last friday. It has gotten too warm here the last week. So pray for a good cold spell.

this is a steal.....

true very true, I didn't likemine until these last two months; now they fit like a dream.

granite

you guys are searching hard for a bite... trying to start a

John I cried on pitch 2 not pitch 3

Thanks for the update. let us know when that cornice is in.

The rock on on the lower two pitchs was supect, but when we actually got into the route the rock turned out ot be solid. Not to sya there wasn't lose sections but for a alpine FA there was realativley little. You should go do it it was a great climb and the setting is impressive.