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Hanford was a product of very early nuclear technology and practices, not representative of modern nuclear plants. That's like comparing a charcoal grill to a coal fired power plant in how efficient and clean the final output is Not to mention that Hanfords primary purpose was never power generation but refinement of Uranium/Plutonium for use in weapons . Very nice red herring though. Would you like to talk about Three Mile Island, or Chernobyl? How about that fact that the plant down at the INEEL that vitrifies nuclear waste is powered by a coal power plant... but the coal plant has to be outside the boundaries of the vitrification plant, as it outputs to much radiation to meet NRC specs.

Yeah, but that #10 is great for beating people with! Much less expensive and unwieldy than a cam.

Where do they serve the best Calimari?

My concern has always been that alternative sources have either 1. limited capacity on the upper end (only so much available hydro and without new mountains were not going to get anymore) 2. limited energy density (exactly how many acres of windmills does it take to provide power for NY or Atlanta?) 3. limited locational availability (i'd love to see a solar powered Seattle ) 4. Storage issues, unless someone has a great way to store huge amounts of electricity for later use (would be needed with Wind, Solar, tidal etc) Until someone can seriously show that these issues can be overcome and account for transmission losses, lifetime costs etc. i'm going to be awfully skeptical (Last I heard few solar cells actually produce more power in their practical lifetime than it takes to produce them) Nuclear may have issues (high input cost, and very long term waste storage) but at least we have the waist contained (as opposed to fossil fuels) and it overcomes all of the issues of alternative sources.

I don't mind someone being reasonable, asking to pass, and respectfully climbing through, not putting my ass in danger. Some asshole trys to blow through, clipping my pro, and being a jackass? He's going to find himself tied off to a big fat hex with a prusik Afterall this isn't France thank god

Yes, a lot of it is. And I also challenge that many people *choose* not to "afford" health insurance by allocating their disposable income on other products of their choice - first and foremost on personal entertainment and material goods. One major misdirection of the who health insurance issue is differentiating between "catastrophic" coverage and general coverage. It's lack of the former that could ruin a family - the latter can and should be paid by choice *privately*. For those who truly can not afford it, doctors should do pro bono work and charities can pick up the slack - charities that, unlike government, are actually accountable, and fraud can be more easily checked out. Mmm... thread drift... good points, our consumer culture certainly does seem to have our spending priorities out of wack, 2 cars per household, big TV, all mandatory! Insurance, someone else will pick up the tab anyway! Charities picking up some slack? Good idea, but with current med-malpractice laws, who in the hell could afford to? Same with pro-bono stuff. The Med-Mal insurance really needs to get fixed, certainly not the only issue here, but definitely a big one. For me the two most telling points were 1. My aunts insurance (as in Internist in Cleveland, went up $30k in one year , solution, she moved to Hawaii, and 2. There are no OBGYN in West Virginia Malpractice insurance costs too much, end result, to get pre-natal care women have to go out of state, or just not get it, which ends up causing more high-risk stuff, leading to more complications, more law suits etc ) Spooky, Spooky if you ask me.

Is there? W/r/t to "health insurance for children"? Your comment about the costs of the war implies that there is some huge, unaddressed need in domestic spending, and that said need materialized under the current administration. This is typical rhetoric from the left when in opposition: manufacture a social crisis, and demagogue it ad nauseaum. When in power, the former opposition summarily shuts up - the social crisis is gone. Maybe not go away, but at least they're being discussed, considered and possibly addressed. Now, well, lets just pretend there isn't a problem It's like the debt, or bad news in Iraq... If the media would just stop discussing all of the bad news, there wouldn't be any bad news! Can we get a ostrich with it's head in the sand graemlin? So many potential uses!

portaledges and sleeping bags baby portaledges are aid Hanging belay from a 3-point anchor? That takes balls!!

yes, but they're illegal in texas.

portaledges and sleeping bags baby

You tell me?

A small PC could completely overun the Gallway Arms. Good guiness, great price on happy hour food, U-district, so Busses are easy to come by.

WTF, of course not Silly boy.

Fuck you, you fuckin' fuck. Is that the best you can come up with you limp wristed, lyrca wearing, sporto,

Your only just now figuring that out And I haven't been up Champagne, or Orbit yet, though Orbit is on the list. And iI'll be going on a weekend, , starting early with another relatively new leader

you never smelled the damn things! Almost a perfect prank, harmless, incredibly annoying, and quasi permanent! I gues there's always pencil lead on his spark plugs, theoreticaly melts and prevents the engine from firing? Just have to clean the plugs though. Or if your a good engineer, you could do the wedding trick and wire his turn signal to his horn?

all much too obvious and easy to fix. My step-dad used to work in Publich health and managed to get his hands on orange-scented samples of landfill deoderizers. (look like the little scented christmas trees you hang on car mirrors, but much, much, much more potent) Hid those around another guys office, under the keyboard, between books , etc etc. Took weeks to find them all, and the best part was the oil they were impregnated with was so potent that it seeped into anything would or paper that it was left in contanct with, so stuff smelled like really strong orange damn near forever.

you must have missed the testimony of the witnesses who said they pulled on gear through all the cruxes. my bad. Though the occasional french free would only have served to speed them up. Given the circumstances probably a better decision then trying to free absolutely every move. I'd still rather seem someone climbing close to their limit and pushing in a safe manner than always climbing something well within their comfort. What's the fun in that?

Yeah, but they did get it free, and it was within their abilities. Just close to the limit of their abilities. So who deserves more to be on the route? The party challenging themselves, close to the limit of their abilities, doing it more or less from the ground up for the first time, and moving a little slowly because of it? Or the party who's climbing below their limit, has done the route before, and is just looking for a nice day out on good rock, in a nice setting? As for a less traveled route? That's what I want to be climbing when i'm pushing myself, some dirty, empty POS, because it's convienent for people doing laps on a trade route Maybe it's because I'm still learning, but I'd give preference to the group challenging themselves, after all, that's what this whole little game is about. Good on you guys 10 to 1 I'll be clogging up the route myself later this summer

amen I think I need to start going to functions... I had know idea what I'm missing.

ew, ew, ew, ew, I need a shower

It's not dead. It just moved to Oregon. we climb and drink and eat every thursday the weather is decent girls and guys oops, I forgot this wasn't spray!

It's the shiny mask and the obvious uniform/hat fetish that gives you away CC. We all know your wearing frilly pink things underneat!

must submit photographic proof to back up your claim, drul... maybe the nude girls of CC.com calendar will finally get put together! I think drul needed one more tasteful black and white, headless chimney butt shot. ooh, not to mention we can find out who peakbetty was