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my fave has always been... The climbing was uninteresting, but at least the pro sucked.

your true colors are shining ...... oh hell, it's been said before

Hillary will run and probably get nominated by the Dems. Then she'll be blow out the water by a somewhat moderate Republican. The first women president will almost certainly have to be Republican.

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Seeing as you missed my glorious pun your definitely slipping

Why? that climb sucks I didn't know any better at the time wandering around the backside and, whadaya know? climbed crap

I did the lower pithc of Cling-on earlier this year. Talk about a pain in the ass strenuous layback on greasy bald footing! Once you get through the thin section about 1/3 of the way up an onto the jugs its easy though. Seemed awfully strenuous at 5.8 to me too. Of course then I got to watch a friend, stem the whole line on top rope And how can you not love the flop onto the bird shit covered ledge

better question might be does a 5.10 face climb = 5.8 crack climb? And from what I've seen, trying to face climb a crack seems to increase the difficulty by about 2 or 3 grades so yeah, that's probably about right. (had a chance to watch a couple burgeoning crack climbers who typically follow/gym-climb at 10b/10c but get shutdown at about 5.8+/5.9 when they have to actually climb a crack directly. They both lead at their upper limit about 5.8 cracks on gear, and 10a sport at (Vantage, Smith, etc maybe a wee bit harder at E38) Whether a 5.8 NW crack = 5.8 Yos crack is a different question and as i've never been blessed enough to climb in Yos i have no idea what so ever!

Damn i forgot E and Aline fox in my compliments and the people here i adore.... you guys RULE and dont forget the Gin this year Hey! Are you feeling slighted? Since this is such a warm fuzzy place you two should definitely kiss and make up

Might consider adding in an integral (or optional zip out?) rope tarp. Possibly attach it lengthwise with a beefy zipper up against the frame. Then add an internal compression strap or two to secure the rope up against the frame. Idea would be to drop the rope onto the tarp, roll it up directly into the pack, secure it with a strap or two, then throw the rest of the gear on top and seal it up? Good luck and the packs look great! Next time in the market I'll definitely be looking a them! Cheers Josh

This translates into climbing-ese as a roadtrip where you buy wine, cheese and bread, instead of PBR and raman noodles.

You say that with an awfully sarcastic tone archie It's a skill called picking your battles and the only other very important skill every married man should have, is the ability to discern when there is absolutely no correct answer, and the best course of action is shut the hell up and stop making it worse ----------------------------- First rule of holes: When your in one, stop digging.

I've taped fingers joints a bit. Whenever I boulder the first joint of my fingers (down by the hand) seems to stiffen and ache a bit and taping tightly seems to help a little? Never done it for wrists though. Only seems to be a problem in the gym though.

Sweet! Congratulations on getting schackled

Go-Lite Coal if you can find them also friggin cheap and not quite so bit as the 6-month-night Had mine for a couple of years and does a nice job! Prett sweet at $30

my bells are small enough i can wear a sweater over them if need be. Won't that inhibit theyre jingling though? their a match maid in heven Your just envyus of her belles and my spelling!

this whole thread just begs for more off color comments! Especially about Minx and her love of off widths

my bells are small enough i can wear a sweater over them if need be. Won't that inhibit theyre jingling though?

So is anyone other than CBS and the Olyclimber/Alpinefox monstrosity going tonight? I'm hungry and desperately need a drink!

I didn't say she wouldn't look fabulous Besides, it'll make drunken stalking easier if all the girls wore bells

I'd like a more informed opinion

I thought fast was bad?

Won't wearing bells be chilly that time of year?

I'm not quite sure wheter to or The wife and I bought our first house last week and moved in Saturday! It's a cool house, nice backyard, free apples and strawberries But my summer climbing season has gone to shit Haven't been on the rock since mid June. Have had 1 good glacier climb and one failed ice climb since then Not even any gym time! I had such high hopes, and between aborted jury duty screwing up plans, and buying a house, they've all gone to shit I guess there's still this fall to hope for

I think we should make anything with a higher risk of death the terrorism illegal. Then terrorism would definitely be my my highest safety priority.... Of course we'd have to get rid electricity. And boats would be right now. I'd say we could all ride horses to work, but those things are probably much more dangerous per/rider-hour than terrorism. Heck, we might even solve global warming that way!!! No one has ever implied we should ignore terrorism completely. But there are 6 times as many deaths per year in the US alone, due to work related injuries, then there are in the entire world for a year due to terrorism. 3 times as many fire deaths, 42 times as many automobile deaths, 3 times as many drownings, and an equal number of deaths due to accidental firearm discharge. I wonder what the amount of money spent per life saved is, for money spent on drunk driver education and treatment, or on worker safety improvements compared to terrorism? It's not the bogeyman, it's not the end of the world or our civilization unless we take the actions they want us too. Which is repressing civil liberties, restricting speech, dissent, and other basic freedoms. The whole point of terrorism is to use the fear instilled in people to cause the government to take actions that will induce the people to revolt and/or turn to supporting the terrorist cause. Killing people is collateral damage, and nothing compared to what we do to ourselves in response. Certainly it deserves attention, resources, and people combatting it, but it doesn't deserve the fear and panic we alot it. Or to have so many resources thrown at it that the rest of the country suffers. oh and belated