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My grandfather told me that his dad used to whack his mom from time to time when under the influence (this would be in 30's). Then one day when his oldest brother got big enough (at about age 16), and dad whacked mom with his lunch pail after coming home from the mines, splitting her head open, older brother beat the shit out of dad, and destroyed his homemade beer and brandy barrels. That was the end of spousal abuse in that family.

Not a fact - an assumption, a claim, whatever. You guys are in a fantasy world anyways if you think prostitution will be legalized in a country where alcohol was banned for over a decade, and pot is still illegal

Arrested, cited, and released. Oooh, what a deterent! It seems like more of a nuisance and hassle than anything really harmful to them. And enforcement is arbitrary and hardly comprehensive. Thanks for making my point. So why waste the time and money? Hold on, buddy. My point was that legalizing prostitution does not mean you have happy, wonderful lives for these women, as claimed by one poster in this thread. "they are paid for sex, what could be better?" That's all I am responding to. It's a fantasy.

Arrested, cited, and released. Oooh, what a deterent! It seems like more of a nuisance and hassle than anything really harmful to them. And enforcement is arbitrary and hardly comprehensive.

Financial - yes. Religious control? I think that's weakly supported. What is more important and neglected here in this discussion is societal stability. People make rules on how to live and norms of behavior because the absence of these rules is chaos and destruction.

BTW, I profoundly disagree with the notion that legalizing prostitution eliminates all the baggage for women in this industry. The evidence is that most if not all of these women were abused as children, have low self-esteem, are controlled by others, and turn to drugs and suicide in higher proportions than average. YOU as a horny male might be getting something out of legalization, but don't fool yourself into believing these women would have a "great life".

I've never paid for sex, but I've been to plenty of strip clubs in my youth, and I have to agree with your sentiment. I always thought - "man this is for losers - what's the point?". If you have to pay for it, you're lame.

That's nonsense. Marriage was not invented by "the church" - I assume you mean the "Catholic" church. You are aware, for example, that the dominant culture in which Christianity arose - the Roman Empire - had an institution of marriage, are you not? As have most cultures and peoples on this planet - whether "religious" or not.

These are the guys we want in charge of our health care?

Where do you recommend visiting in Oesterreich?

Jay will gladly ride the SLUT

Yeah, I wonder how Mt. Irvine went...

But what will I do with all that extra money? hookers and blow?

linky bug, you gotta post a TR of your Rainier climb this summer...

Hah, that is the classic saying. I've been trying to pick up French cuisine lately myself. It is true to some extent, but not that bad. If browning or sauteing, oil can be substituted in place of butter, to reduce the saturated fat. I've had success too with reducing the amount of butter by 1/3 and still getting much the right texture/flavor. It seems a lot of the butter/cream gets used in sauces or creamy soups. The cream isn't as bad as butter, as it's about 35-40% fat. As for poaching liquids or buttery sauces, you don't eat all the poaching liquid (some will be used for a sauce or nage), and sauces are applied in moderation, due to their concentrated flavor. (Last night I reduced 3C wine and 2C stock to less than a cup.) Where the saturated fat and cholesterol really seems to hit is with souffles, custards, creme anglais, pastry doughs, etc., especially due to egg yolks. But I'd rather eat one of those once a week than a twinkie. The other thing to keep in mind is that when a recipe calls for a stick of butter, it's probably for at least four people. Also the French know about portion control. :-)

I'm not sure what part of my post got your mangina all sandy nor do I care. I wasn't offering any advice to Mr. Webster. This is spray and I was sharing what I found to be a funny anecdote. Indeed. Talk about a completely out-of-line attack. Welcome to the world of spray with its resident rabid dog. Hopefully he (or the rest of us) will not scare you off. :-)

Nice try, but you can't squeeze blood from stone, DC.

Can't we all just get along?

We are the world!!

I thought you were gonna tell us how they got busy in a stall.

hi porter. could you please post the steaming pile animated gif, now? is that not what these character bashing exchanges are? yes. you are right.

hi porter. could you please post the steaming pile animated gif, now?

Women: can't live with them... pass the beer nuts.

Updated subject.