KaskadskyjKozak

man, you're an assclown do you ever have fun, laugh, or do anything but bitch about how horrible life in the US is?

So what you are saying is that 20% of people should suffer because "they don't deserve" healthcare so that .1% of 80% who need expensive procedures can get them? nope

Maybe you could travel to Thailand for some affordable, prosthetic testicals, j_b?

Well-off americans don't go to Canada for treatment. I guess socializing their medical system has a lowering effect on quality at the higher levels of treatment in the aggregate. No surprises there. Socialism is great at lowering the bar. Even if what you you said was true (which it isn't), would maintaining a platinum-plated, elite-only boutique system of health care be worth it if it meant large numbers would go without entirely? Curious vision of freedom you have there. If 80% of Americans have coverage for great care - that's better than 100% of coverage where the quality drops enough to force people to leave the country to get the care they need... if they can afford it. Why don't you just study something useful so you can get a job with coverage, Prole? I mean, after you move out from your Mom's house.

Well-off americans don't go to Canada for treatment. I guess socializing their medical system has a lowering effect on quality at the higher levels of treatment in the aggregate. No surprises there. Socialism is great at lowering the bar.

unless you base your conclusions on things like evidence,... You mean like your rich fleeing to the US for treatment? Including politicians (see top of thread). Apparently Canadians have no clue what "evidence" is.

Yeah, more disaggregated bullshit lacking any historical context as to how households have changed over the last fifty years and the increased costs for those households on things like, oh you know, health care. What a laugh. If you weren't so busy cherry picking and digging up obscure "news of the weird" nonsense like "Canadian Politician Goes To America For Operation" to uphold your failed theories while shit falls apart, you might actually help clean up the mess you've been cheerleading for since you started imitating Michael J Fox's character on Family Ties when you were 8 years old. Dick Cheney asked me to tell you to go fuck yourself, Prole.

Well, sure, but what they don't tell you is that none of those hospitals in Vancouver, Montreal, Ottawa or Toronto perform the procedure in Florida. It's February, for crissakes. Who wants to go to Montreal or Ottawa in bloody February? The only thing that confuses me about this scenario is that this guy is presumably as well positioned as anyone to asses the treatment options available to him in Canada, and better positioned than anyone to understand the extent to which he'll be exposing himself to charges of hypocrisy if news of his surgery goes public - so why on earth does he take the flight to Florida instead of getting treated with the exact same procedure just as promptly in Canada? Because treatment in Canada sucks

Prole, I hope your Mom is OK with you posting her photos on cc.com

There's no need to question why someone would jump at the opportunity to leave Canada.

You should go to France or Sweden. Oh, wait, you are too stupid to learn a foreign language.

Why don't you go to another country for medical care? Why don't you go to another country period?

But Canada's health care is so much better than ours! WTF?!?!?!

Rich Richard

Yes, as you get above Source Lake. Lower down the crampons on snow shoes make the cat track easier to hike (it's icy).

We had headlamps on until Source Lake. :-)

Winter (meaning cat-track from the highest Alpental lot, to the climber's left side of Source Lake)

Good point, goatboy. For the record, my partner and I stretched out the rope and stood for about an hour directly under the moat yelling to our other team, asking what was up, and how the anchor/belay spot and route looked. We were told there was not a lot of room for a second, parallel belay spot or to run in parallel, so we waited for the follower to start up before I set up a belay. I honestly was wondering if our first leader might want to bail for a while standing there. Meanwhile we saw 5 people standing in a sunny spot on the ridge behind us. We weren't sure if they were climbers or hikers just hanging out. Nobody approached us to ask WTF was going on, or if they could jump ahead. It would have been easy to walk over to us where we stood and ask.

9.5 hours, including at least an hour waiting below the moat. i noticed you tried the NE butt earlier this season as well. :-)

If any party had caught up to us at the top of pitch 1 or 2 and set up a belay (or tried to do a running belay) fast enough to pass us I would have had absolutely no problem with that.

fuck yeah. we could fund Prole's retirement from his own contributions to the weed tax. bring it!

Sorry to hear about the toes, sunnyrem. When do you want to get out on ice (or mixed) again? Lane Peak/Lover's Lane is looking great right now :-)

Ed, nice job. How long did it take you from car to summit?

Were you the guys that just caught up to me on pitch two, and set up a belay immediately to my (climber's) right?

Amen. Pitch two was wide open with lots of belay trees for the third pitch - or even a running belay. If anyone was near me I would have encouraged them to fly by.