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looks interesting. If we get the weather might have to dive up and check out.

When I was up on a failed Tooth climb I noticed draws on a cliff face. The only conclusion was that is was for mixed climbing. Is there any info on the routes out there. Never done mixed but would like to give it a go. How hard, and where are the routes? Locals only knowledge or guide book? Waiting, waiting, for alpine to come back again.

nice you got out. What a wonderful day looking like. A lot more than what I did toay, sitting on couch all day Do you have any more pics of wall in the second picture? Of the gullies? Has anybody climbed that wall/gullies? Wait about a month or so and there should be enough snow for those routes. But by then you will want to xc ski in. Hiking or AT sucks ass. My buddies xc and I was hating life using my AT gear. Or if you know some one with a sled

well your a climber, how smart could you be anyway. I do more brain damage when I go out drinking anyway.

lol ivan

no these have been out for a while. 2 years?

interesting. so are you going to stop going high? The brain is overated anyway

yes and I love them. Use them on the cliping gear end of my draws. The gait action is sweet, not to stiff, not too soft I use the Omega Pacific JC for clipping the rope (slightly larger diameter = kinder to rope). Now if I can find a good clean wire oval to rack my hear.

not if your clove hitching both strands. I clip the upper piece then clip through both strands on the bottom. Clip through the bottom piece two more times, you will end up wrapping the webbing arond the spine this way. Then through in an overhand knot. Not sure if I explained it very well. I know what you mean about placing the first piece as a cam. When I started I always put in a multi at the bottom of the pitch, but lately I have been just using a cam. Think I have become overly dependant on cams.

lol Kev. Learned my lesson about stating anything about bolts and routes.

you mean to tell me there is a place other than smith to climb at? NO WAY What about trout creek? any route info for that one? edit to say not wanting to hyjack thread but piggie back about trout

I climbed with a friends girlfriend and she was placing all the cams perpendicular to pull as well as over camming every one. She had a choice, but did not know any better. To say the least I was unnerved by that and promptly corrected her. Placing gear in direction of fall is so basic (well at least it seems to me). If she did fall the cam could have rotated to a bad placement or got itself stuck. Good $60 mistake. Now if that was your only placement that is a totally different story.

yes they are

WOW....amazin how this thred gotz way off trak. Tanks to all dem peps whoz partisipated. The discussion was just as good as that sentance.

was one of the first up there today. Got to about 3 miles from cloud cap. Stopped there due to worries of getting stuck (high centered). Some other crazy fools went futher up the road and beat in a good track so I think you should be able to make it to the Y for cloud cap and Tilly Jane. Next round or gate closing will finish off the road soon. Really nice day out there today. North Face is filling in and cooper looks to be ready.

lol hair....lol...lack of...no really I have...lol

I see the road ths is going going down. yes I have seen the farside trail. Hiked it twice and thought the same thing that it needs to be regraded. The end

well for some of us who live further south, I think I am going to wait one or two more storms before heading out. If I was further north, Baker would be my Bizzach this weekend.

Well rather than just telling me what to do are you ready to put your money where your mouth is? I fully intend to work on the far side trail. I would love to have your help since this will be the first time for me. My schedual is about to open up with the end of cross country season and willing to meet you out there for ideas. My thinking I would practice on the closest trail to work out the bugs before tackling regrading the other. However I just got the fact that you would want that trail completely eleminated, I gather to eliminate traffic or restrict traffic to that of climbers only. I understand the thinking but don't think it will work now. Too many people have come that way rather from the farside and I think you would have a tough time eliminating that trail. When the farside is ready for traffic I am willing to give the nearside trail elimination a go.

damn I already made plans for sunday. LOL alpine-adverse....To the max man...

I remember the days with snowshoes. Those were tbe best of times, or so I thought. Get skis and never look back. Well ok look back at all the suckers using snowshoes. I have an old Osprey ceres 50 and I could stuff them into the front pocket. Mine came with a rubber band us that to bind them together, then us straps looped in some fashon through the slowshoes and through attachment point on your backpack, crampon pouch. I have see people put them on top of thier pack under the top lid and use the lid to hold them on. Jlag, the time is near. One or two more storms like this and it is game on!!!!

just called and they are not planning on closing the road till the end of the month. You may not be able to get up there due to snow but gating is a non-issue.

will do thanks.

THnks for the info. Was thinking about heading up sunday, hope road is still open.

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