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Seems to be hit and miss. I've scored $100 trekking poles fully functional for $10, inflatable sleeping pads for $5 that just needed a little patch, and my GF got a brand new XC ski setup for $100 that would have retailed for $200-250. And the list indeed goes on, better luck next time.

I was having this same conversation a few days ago, my feeling is that it was because of the many nice days that we had. We got a lot more direct sunlight shining on those colorful leaves as opposed to the diffused light coming through the clouds which dulls those vibrant colors. Indeed though, beautiful fall!

Nicely done, hopefully you didn't get in too much trouble for being a little late!

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So does anyone know more info about this place (Off??) Sent a PM to JY and MF but no response. Anyone got their email address to try and get more info?

Wish I could say one way or the other if it's 1 or 6. Don't need any more draws, but thought others might. Good luck if you take the plunge!

If you're in need of some new ones, this is a killer deal! http://www.amazon.com/Quickwire-Quickpack-by-Black-Diamond/dp/B000N2Q58Q/ref=sr_1_85?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1210741152&sr=1-85

I want to say that the short climbs on the lake side with lead bolts and trees on top are in the 5.6-5.8 range depending on where you climb. A little further down towards Staircase and on the non-lake side of the road at the base of I believe a maple tree is another in the 5.9 range. I seem to remember a couple of iffy bolts on it. There's also the plaque or memorial wall which has a mixed gear/bolts climb in the .9 to low .10 range. X-rock is just up from the main parking area by the lakeside routes and has a couple of steeper routes too. I haven't been there since the fire swept through, was it last summer? Curious to see how that affected things. But yeah, all these and then some are in the new edition of the CGOM.

So because someone wants to know where their money is going, they are automatically labeled paranoid/cheapskate/having way too much time on their hands?

PM sent about tendon rope and helium awning.

In the way of employment you might check here in the classifieds under help wanted. They typically have some opportunities. You might also check the Wenatchee World here, they sometimes have some stuff. Good luck.

PM'd regarding camalots.

I've been meaning to call or send an email to find out what prices are like, seems pretty interesting.

For that you'd want to go here .

pm sent on grab bag o cams

Just thought you might like to know that your he is a she. Thanks for posting the position announcement Shawn!

Yep, got in touch with him via email.

I'll take the Karhu's if you still have 'em.

Very nice Off!! Sounds like you had an excellent time. Great to see you crankin' like usual.

It seems to me the bigger question being asked is "Should climbers be reimbursed for their accomplishments?" This opens up a whole other can of worms that I really don't feel like getting into right now. Mos is more on the track that I'm into. What do we all consider as professional? Is it basically makin' money or is it pursuing a passion or obsession to the best of your ability? Traditionally the idea is that of one whom generates income for their "craft". If you're true to yourself and answer to nobody else, then you're a professional. Unfortunately there aren't very many people that can honestly say that about themselves. It's all relative.

No need to bother with the snowshoes, in the morning hours the snow is pretty solid, then obviously softens up as the day progresses. There is still a decent amount of snow up high which might be deterring some folks. It seemed like we were the only ones staying up there that night, we bivied just above the old rock shelter and had awesome views of the trio of volcanoes. I'll see if I can find a couple of photos worth posting.

I was just up there last Friday and Saturday with a couple of friends and while a sign posted at the trailhead suggested that we would run into hundreds of people, we ran into only 4 parties. This was approaching from the berry patch trailhead into snowgrass flats. We covered a lot of ground over the two days we were there and so were surprised to not have seen more folks. I would assume they haven't done any trail work in the area yet this year as there were a couple of blowdowns on the trail which would be pretty fussy, I would guess, with horses. We hit up old snowy and checked out curtis gilbert, it's a beautiful area. Whatever you choose have fun and enjoy yourselves despite whatever you may think would detract from the experience.

Yet another night of great climbing with awesome people. Nice to meet those new to the crag and to see some familiar faces.

It's all relative. I'm willing to make the generalization that most peaks are composed of rocks. Again that's relative to the experience and mentality of your leader, or guide, and to a degree your mentality. If you're a very perceptive individual and are able to soak up all of the information that your guide has and is willing to offer, then you CAN learn a great deal more than another client. Supposedly the basic course GIVES you a full year of experience. This is very much dependent on your instructors and the variability of information that you get from them. Is this "experience" qualitative or quantitative? Again I would say it depends on your mentality and that of your instructors/guides. That doesn't necessarily mean that they all went into it with the same mindset. In a sense it's just like many educational institutions, some will cheat and do whatever they can to "pass" the course for whatever reason while others have a desire to actually LEARN the techniques and processes involved. In my opinion communication is the key there. Knowing the right questions to ask potential partners is crucial in that situation, whether those partners are club members or internet spraylords. I took the mountaineers basic course for what it was, an introduction to climbing. I didn't pass the course, but I would bet that I still got more out of it than many who did pass. There are many sources of information available to you on climbing, it all depends on how you use that information. I'm very pleased with where my climbing is at right now. I have the skills and confidence to take me to technical and remote places with peace of mind. Wasn't trying to be an asshole, just to give you another perspective. Good luck and I hope that helped somewhat.