Blake

Our tax dollars at work!

The widemouth nalgene is far superior to the skinny ones. You can't eat soup from the skinny one, you can't put ice cubes in there, and it is hard as hell to fill one up from a shallow alpine stream or misty waterfall.

What about when you need some insulation under a goretex type hardshell or a softshell? I don't mean frequent breaks of a few minutes (throw on belay jacket outside everything) but prolonged periods. Would you just stick the synth. insulated jacked under the soft/hard shell? I guess all fleece has over synthetic insulation is breathability and abrasion durability. Maybe you are right in that the breathability is a non-factor because at that point you should jsut take it off.

b52 needs 3 biners reverso only needs 2 yeah, so you need 3 biners to bring up two seconds.. so what? how often are you down to your very last biner?

no no Dru, Trango b52= lighter, less clanky, and doesn't develop a sharp edge. Let's you do the auto-locking of two seconds for alpine, just like the reverso.

What about when active? I wear a fleece jacket over a synthetic baselayer when doing cold weather stuff. I also like it for dry/cool conditions (like summer alpine nights) I don't think that a synthetic insulated jacket would be as good for these things.

If for occasional use and "i might encounter some snow" get the CAMP XLA 210 (8oz) for general alpine climbs, BD raven Pro (13 oz) and for consistent galcier slogs, that grivel eagle (19oz).

that's from the pro mountain sports webpage... do you all find that to be accurate? How does have fleece on prevent your polypro or other synthetic 1st layer from working well? Am I a fool for owning and using fleece on almsot every outing?

It's snowing in Bellingham this morning anyway.

Great read! Worthy chestbeat, ignore dru.

City Park, watch out...

Was he one of the guy's that Gaston Rebuffat encountered in "starlight and storm"?

If you go anywhere from bellingham on sunday, i'd love to go as well. I have full rack as well.

Because now BD doesn't have a monopply on the expansion range. Plus these are cheaper.

Wouldn't "More winter" imply that some had occured?

same thumb loop as new trangos/BDs. I do wish they made one more size up though.

where are you coming from? edit: what forecast are you looking at?

I agree, quality innovation over there for sure.

I wish MFT himself would just chime in with the authoritative view on windshirts, but alas I think Dru scared him away a few weeks ago when his secret identity was revealed.

Cheaper and lighter than the new BDs with more expansion range as well. http://www.trango.com/prod.php?id=113

tube How did they get the cord to go through those holes? is there a knot inside the thing?

I think 'chelle is referring to "Glide" TM. It is dental floss produced by Gore (of -tex, not Al- ) It's the greatest for flossing of teeth. You won't go back to regular floss once you've tride Glide. So is "Glide" dental floss the stuff you were talkign about?

I doubt anyone could climb Tupshin peak in 24hrs car to car (without their car being in Stehekin).

I got a pair from a guy after posting in this forum. Thanks cc.com!

Does anyone know why Scarpa chose to do away with the Laser AT boot and make the "Matrix" instead? It seems that the Laser is very well loved and quite popular.