olyclimber

No...Bush is an idiot, not a tyrant.

Look to your heart. It has all the answers:

I don't trust Clark, he probably is a liar...but I don't have any proof. GW isn't a liar, he is just an idiot and a pawn who is so dumb he actually believes the shit he spouts. So it doesn't count as a lie, even though the stuff he says is BS.

Good idea. We can start a cc.com commune up in Alaska. We drink koolaide and have arguments about bolting whilst harvesting our crops.

I had an apartment on Queene Anne Hill (seattle), and the cat was the reason that we had rats in there once in a while. The cat would drag a half dead rat into the house, and eventually it would come to and start running all over the place.

Hmmm...that sounds like some of the antibolt people here on cc.com

Smooth Criminal

Yes, that is from Brazil. One the best movies of all time.

It's about having a social interaction with someone who pushes you higher then you were....an not about looking at porn in some mag. You can fantasize about climbing all day, but you only get better by doing it. If it takes someone else or it comes from within, climbing porn only puts you in a frame of mind....it doesn't improve your climbing ablility.

I thought this thread was going to have something about someone finding the carcass of some darwin award winner like the guy who strapped himself to a bunch of balloons and shot up into the atmosphere.

I took my son to this place over in West Seattle (south end of California Ave.) and they have this tractor that he could ride. They specialized in cutting kids hair, and I was surpised that they had no problems with his first haircut. He's two years, and doesn't sit still for anything it seems...

sick

Of course, you are right. My apologies. I think the only thing to be done is to remedy by consumption. Let the record state that I agreed with RuMR. That would be a first for this thread.

Off_White, The measure of posts since you left for work as "large" is only your own subjective experience. Philosophy was covered in the thread 20 posts or so ago, and semantics is scheduled yet. We are now on boyish name calling. Please get it together, Stinkypants! Anyway, on the on same lines of bolting and not bolting.... Can you use the same argument (bolting makes climbing falsely easier, and lowers standards of climbing) on trails? Should we get rid of all trails because they making traveling in the Parks and Wilderness areas easier,more accessible, and just gumming up these areas with newbies who have no business being there? Huh? Huh? Answer!

So....is this a statement about ethics?

In Soviet Russia, bolting the Peoples rock with the Peoples bolts creates jobs.

Let's get down to brass tacks here. The notion of the 'self' and the 'other' are subjective experiences. Your phenomenology are essentially a study of emotions. Ethical contructs, while real to the 'self', are emotional by nature and attached to the 'other' in the course of your phenomenlogical experience . Therefore, right and wrong both exist and do not exist, because each of us carry around our own contructs of reality. This is because your 'other' is not the 'self' of the entities that may make up the psyche of your 'other', which may or may not even exist. On the other hand, the notion of 'spray' is in fact real, and is not a shadow in the cave.

I think this horse is dead. Lets move on to a topic that's easier to talk about. Peace in the Middle East: What are your thoughts? Who is right? Palestine or Isreal?

Oh ya....and....

I know nobody wants to talk about a solution. It's more fun to talk about the problem...and to pretend like the world's going to suddenly change to support your ideal. Let's face, man has been raping the land some time...bolts are pretty small in the grand scheme (especially the ones that are colored the same as the rocks). Whether you like "sport" climbing or not, the bolts aren't going away. The solution is to get support for officially deginating areas as 'bolt' or 'no bolt'. Who is going to step up and expend the huge amount of energy to get something like this in place?

Say good bye to all your free time and money.

Trask writes the songs that make the whole world sing....

You mean there is something besides Miss Ringworm in this thread?