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I've noticed that cc.com defines a climb du jour for the season. Last year, I think it was Liberty Crack in a a day. This year, I'm pretty sure It's Backbone Ridge and the complete North Ridge of Stuart. To pick a crag route, I would go with Thin Fingers. Why do you suppose this happens?

The thing I've been seeing the most at crags are haul bags, very pretty un-duct-taped haul bags. Get with the program, man!

Tape Doesn't sweat Even then, I haven't taped at all this year. Mostly because I'm too lazy.

I'm sorry. I will try to be smaller in the future. In short, work your hands in and pull up past the undercut.

The first time I TR'd it I ran up the thing. The key for me was thumb locks. I have yet to build up the testicular fortitude required to lead it.

yes, actually we do....sometimes it sucks having to TELL the guy how to get it done...its nice having a girl who already knows the tricks... Have you ever noticed that stories involving girls kissing don't describe the situation as "making out", the are always "going at it"

Neat links Alpinfox. I'm sticking with the theory that a 757 hit the Pentagon. There are just as many links that show debris that is from an airliner the size of the 757. Too many of the missle theory links assume that the plane hit the pentagon while it was still intact. More likely it made a glancing blow off the ground, dislodging the engines and wings from the main body, quite possibly twisting the entire airframe in the process. It is entirely possible that some items (Link 2's car) would be spared total destruction by the incoming wreckage. The contractor's trailer (link 2 again) is steel - quite a lot tougher than 99% of a 757. It would get an asswhuppin, but it would still be recognizable. My only remaining question - Where is the wreckage of the wingbox? I bet it's in the Pentagon. BTW - what are wing roots described as? it certainly isn't a term we use.

You know what the densest (and therefore the part that has the greatest penetrating power) part of an airplane is? Well, it's not the stale pretzels and fluffy pillows in the cabin, it's the near solid mass of titanium, steel, and aluminum of the engines. Why didn't the engines punch through the wall? And if the non-fuselage parts of the airplane didn't penetrate the wall, but instead sheared off and just bounced off the wall, why isn't it scattered all across the lawn in front of the pentagon? In the immediate post-impact pictures, there is no airplane wreckage visible. Seems weird to me. If you are really suggesting that the wings and tail folded in towards the body of the aircraft and then went into the 16' hole that you claim was made by the fuselage.... well, you have a poor understanding of physics. edit: Interesting link I'm not great with physics, but I can tell you that the "near solid mass of titanium, steel, and aluminum of the engines" is not nearly so stout as you think. The engines are designed to move air. This means that a lot of air fits inside these engines. They are really nothing more than the lightest tube GE/Rolls Royce could make to house all the needed parts to move the fans and hydraulicly power the control systems. The engines are attached to the wings with five friable bolts. I would think that they came off the wings as soon as they touched the ground. The engines have to be able to break off. If they ever get mis-aligned while in flight it would be nearly impossible to regain control of the aircraft. If an engine falls off entirely, there is still a good chance that a pilot will be able to land. The wings are gas tanks. While I don't have a picture of the Pentagon in front of me to see the rubble field, I wouldn't expect much of the wings to be left in an impact. It's like a flamable water baloon. Structurally speaking, the sturdiest part of the airplane is called the wing box. It's where the wings attach to the fuselage. I would expect to see it somewhere in the photo. The most dense section of a plane is the cargo hold. It is typically full of luggage, cargo boxes and sometimes, fuel.

Ummm... Aren't those trekking poles? Do you use trekking poles on approaches? Does that mean that we were cool before it was cool to be cool?

Nice white Jesus. It's really authentic. Hell, nice white EVERYBODY. The music sucked ass. I would have expected something a little more agressive as someone is taking an asswhupping like that. How about "Becoming" from Pantera, or "Eye for an Eye" by Soulfly (they are very Christian you know). If you want to get the kids interested, you might want to add a scene with Christ ghost-driving a chariot with "Ridin Dirty" playing in the background. Since you broadcast your beliefs here, I will do the same. There is no God. Get over yourself.

If you plan to hire a guide, you will probably want to listen to his/her input more thana bunch of internet junkies. I'm pretty sure Mountain Madness and Alpine Ascents International guide up the Emmons route. You could also contact RMI about hiring a guide for a private custom climb.

BBP is the shit, but it's kinda hard to down a thick beer on a hot day. My pisswater of choice is PBR.

Leaving your manhood behind for a glorious new life as an ugly woman?

I've heard some good stuff about these: Petzl Long Life A non-removable hanger (included) all stainless steel. I read an online test somewhere that chose these as their favorite for hard rock. The downside - $10 each

Farts are deeply meaningful In lieu of a much overdue poo thread, I bring you a fart thread. BTW - I'm pretty sure the Pho I ate last night is giving me the shitz.

It's almost friday and my company is letting me go home at 5pm tomorrow!!! I'm going to find you and Kick you in the nuts!!!

Speaking of Index - What is BOC like? Is it fingers or what? I know I could probably look it up, but good cracks seem on-topic right now.

From rc.com: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: The Orange CCH Alien cam that was reportedly involved in the Paradise Forks incident, has turned out to be dated 10-05, rather than the highly publicized date of early 2004. This information has been verified the by the Coconino County Sheriffs Depart both verbally and in photographic form, with Dave Waggoner of CCH, during CCH’s own internal investigation. It is however still unknown if this unit was clearly dimpled. The window of the recall was 11-04 to 12-05, thus any Alien cams date coded during this period should be tested, dimpled or not. CCH will tensile test customers’ Aliens, of any manufacture date at no charge, to ensure that they will withstand a fall. Testing is done to 2/3 the rated tensile strength. After testing, all cams are currently being identified with a “Tensile Tested” stamp on the main swage above the loop. We will test and return cams to our customers within 1 week of receiving them. Please attach your complete contact information to each unit being returned for testing, to facilitate a speedy turn-around. Dave Waggoner Colorado Custom Hardware Inc. 115 East Lyon Street Laramie, WY 82072 USA (307) 721-9385 _________________

This has happened to me a few times. The first time was in highschool. I wasn't ready for that girl to take off her shirt. My pubescent mind almost exploded when she let loose. Most recently, I was worked over as I tried to freeclimb with my aid rack on. Jeezus. The #6 Tech Friend can get caught in strange places as you are making 5.8 moves in approach shoes.

I second this method. I have used it quite often to good effect. You can use single ropes, but it is a lot more effort for the leader to pull them through the device.

There's some steep snow and loose rock at the top. Seriously though, the only conditions that make climbing Little T dangerous or difficult are avalanches. The snow is consolidated now, so you should have a good time of it. The landmarks are huge and navigation is easy. In short, go for it.

Oh God!!! Back on topic!!! From rc.com: FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: The Orange CCH Alien cam that was reportedly involved in the Paradise Forks incident, has turned out to be dated 10-05, rather than the highly publicized date of early 2004. This information has been verified the by the Coconino County Sheriffs Depart both verbally and in photographic form, with Dave Waggoner of CCH, during CCH’s own internal investigation. It is however still unknown if this unit was clearly dimpled. The window of the recall was 11-04 to 12-05, thus any Alien cams date coded during this period should be tested, dimpled or not. CCH will tensile test customers’ Aliens, of any manufacture date at no charge, to ensure that they will withstand a fall. Testing is done to 2/3 the rated tensile strength. After testing, all cams are currently being identified with a “Tensile Tested” stamp on the main swage above the loop. We will test and return cams to our customers within 1 week of receiving them. Please attach your complete contact information to each unit being returned for testing, to facilitate a speedy turn-around. Dave Waggoner Colorado Custom Hardware Inc. 115 East Lyon Street Laramie, WY 82072 USA (307) 721-9385 _________________

Is there already a Master's class for comps? They should also open up a Clydesdale class for us heavyweights.

I wonder if Kev's head would pop off if we jammed it in a crack and fell on him. And back on topic - The whole Aliengate situation is bumming me out. While I agree with what Counterfeitfake said about 100 pages ago, that this could have been user error, I'm still a bit concerned about my stock of aliens. I just acquired two sets of Hybrids. Since Wildcountry dropped their offset line, there isn't exactly too much to chose from. Maybe I can get that Ukranian guy selling KROK cams on E-bay to make me some...

I thought Jaberwocky was pretty good too. I didn't lead it, but it was fun. The slippery slab on the outside just forces you to use the crack. What are you, some kind of sport climber?