Kiwi

Must say, I was surprised at the age range of cc.comers.

Really? I thought there was a trailing 'e'. Edit: Ahh... I see. Scheiss = shit Scheisse = shits (pl)

I-90 to Ohio!?!?! Scheise!

Maybe cuz Clinton violated a real concrete law, whereas Bush didn't. I don't think it's an issue of which is worse than the other, but which can be pursued by the law. (I'm not defending Bush)

I might be able to get some weekdays off. Looking forward to climbing.

I'm American.

But isn't Kosovo UN-backed? Whereas Iraq was a rogue attack.

I've been thinking about this alot recently, and I tend to agree.

Are those population figures of individuals who voted? Otherwise, they're meaningless. And area of land is totally meaningless. Big whoop if Bush won Montana with its population of three.

Indeed, it is a vicious cycle...

Like I said, I speed to get away from the other cars. I guess I don't like being crowded. As I said before, traffic density it quantitative. So I weave through dense slow traffic to get into one of those 'dead zones' in between the traffic packets to where there are no cars. Then I cruise at my own pace and regain my serenity. I drive slowly on an empty road because I enjoy driving and there is no rush. In heavy traffic, I'm getting tail gated or slowed down left and right. Tense. Here's a pictoral diagram:

It's not about speeding to arrive somewhere faster, or being mad that someone's making you late. It's about a relaxed state of mind. Being held up by slow drivers or bikers destroys my serenity and provides me discomfort. Oh, btw, if I was on an empty road of freeway, I'd cruise 10 mph below the limit. I only speed in traffic to get away from the other cars.

The 'heavy traffic' comment was to explain why passing was impossible.

Yeah, that's it. It's pretty black-and-white when you are holding up five or more cars.

No doubt, but it's still inconsiderate of you to hold people up. It's not about being impatient either.

The guy at the Redmond REI tried selling me this: Looks kinda bulky with the front pockets. (4,300 cu in)

Wrong 'morally'. It's just plain inconsiderate.

Argh! Don't get me started. The left lane is reserved for cars that are passing (or driving fast). I see cars hold up other drivers all the time. Sure, these cars could always pass them using the right lane, but they shouldn't. Car poolers who hog up the HOV lane piss me off too. One should always leave room for drivers behind them to pass. Drivers who drive side by side next to another car are so inconsiderate. I see it in traffic all the time. Traffic density is not gradual, but quantitative. You can see it clearly. You see packets of traffic helld up by three or more cars driving side by side at the same speed. No one behind them can pass. There is usually a quarter mile or 10 car lengths between each traffic quanta.

I admit, I speed. But I've also been the 'slow car' on the road myself. And yes, I change lanes or pull over in those situations. But that is not the issue. A cyclist going 20 mph on a 35 mph road in heavy traffic is wrong.

Cyclists are usually on small two lane roads where the room is tight and it is impossible to pass. Same road laws, but what about the law about holding up traffic? I don't know if it's an official statue, but automobile drivers can be ticketed for driving too slow and holding up traffic. They're expected to pull off to the side of the road and allow others to pass them. Even if you're not legally required by the law to do that, it's still just common courtesy and and about being considerate of others on the road. As a pedestrian, I always cross the cross walk quickly. As a driver, I never occupy the passing (fast) lane if I see someone else behind me who wants to go faster.

It's inconsiderate of them. Just like pedestrians that take their time to cross.

My only peeve is when there are cyclists going 20 mph on a 40 mph road, and passing is either not allowed or not possible. So they hold up like 10+ cars.

Wow! That's not anywhere near Phinney Ave N. I get lost easily and I've explored only like 1% of Seattle, so I'd like to have an address to work it. I don't want to ask everyone there whether they are from the internet. There should be some password or something. Plab? Btw, I'll be the bloke in all green.

Oh man... so many options for backpacks. I wish volume was the end of it. Most packs seem pretty standardised. Anything I should look for in particular in a mountaineering pack besides an ice axe loop?

1. Does someone have an address? 2. What does Zeke's (the building) look like? 3. How is parking? 4. When should I show up? 5. How will I identify you guys?