bunglehead

Talking to some co-workers of mine earlier, I find out that I'm the only one without cable TV. I know I'm insane, but am I a luddite? How many of you peeps gots cable?

Wow, Jerusalem. It's been a long time since I've been there. I loved hanging out there. It's a crazy, chaotic, tight, cramped, loud, hectic city.

Or chop the toprope anchors. They hate that.

Britney and JT?!! That's so 3 weeks ago, Erik! If you want to hang with us Tre Chic Oregon types, you best be talkin about B-aff. and J-Lo.

is it just me, or is this web site a lot nicer now that Timmy's back from his vacay-shun?

so if I bring my guitar, will some of you kids sit around the burning palletes and sing some Sabbath with me? Then we can all go for a moonlight stroll up Gray Butte!! Ooooohhhhh!

Glad you got your bird back. funny story! My dog used to disappear for a day or so and come back all happy as hell and reeking of shit. Pets

SO IS ANYBODY GOING TO HAVE A DOG THERE OR WHAT??????

Anybody bringing a doggie?

Dwayner, Unfortunately, the second you clean em up, some prehensile tailed mouth breathers trash it again. And Hidden Forest, when the bolts were placed, was a relatively pristine environment. That was like ten years ago though.

No! Joes at least has redeeming qualities. REI=Ridiculously Expensive Incapable of helping Coop. , INC. As a 30 year member, I have watched the long slow slide from a helpful coop to mediocrity to plain piss poor. I hear that. They actually used to have people that used the shit they sell working there. I had to buy some cord the other day, and the kid working the counter didn't even know how to cut it. He even had trouble turning on the hot knife. I mean now they've got fucking LUGGAGE for sale. back in the day, a backpack was luggage.

I didn't know that either! Man, I've taken my mutt down there at least a dozen times. Oopsy daisy!

NOW turning to caves?! Climbers have been using those caves for years! I do agree with the bolting shit, though. That's total bullshit, and one of the reasons we climbing scumbags aren't allowed to recreate in the caves anymore. And if one absolutely insists on using chalk, a chalk ball works nicely, and scrub those damn holds when yer done! the climbing at Skeleton was super duper fun when it was accessible though. (Well, like Timmay pointed out, it's still allowed, but they sure are dicks about it) Oh and I know we covered this in a previous thread, but it sill pisses me off that climbers get singled out. Vandalism is ignored but bouldering is regulated: Typical USFS BULLSHIT

I'd go to Mongolia in a heartbeat if I could. Man I dig that crazy Tuva stuff.

The REI in Eugene has a climbing wall. They use it as a lovely display for sale items.

Oooh! Can I com and just gape? And Drink?

I believe the Hidden Forest cave actually had some bolted lines at one point in time. Have folks on the site here been ticketed by FS rangers or asked to not climb? I'm curious as to what they have said. The above document also talks about the Access Fund getting involved around the time of its writing. Just trying to get the scoop, any more info would be 'preciated. Timmy, I was actually at Skeleton and watched the rangers move rocks under the boulder problems and told us that if we were caught using chalk, we'd get a $50 fine. And yeah, there used to be bolted routes at Hidden Forest. As a matter of fact, the caves are a segment in "Masters of Stone II" It opens with Skeleton and a tagline that reads "Somewhere in Oregon" I probl'y have more. I'll post as I remember, or you can pm me for beta. -Ron Also, I believe Larry Brumwell has some beta about this.

I got some whack message like "membership pending" or some shit like that. And feel free to pm me with any adventure climbs you know about in SW Oregon. I'll be more than happy to listen. Shit, I'll even pop for

I've seen it both ways. And I didn't say there aren't older people that aren't complete fucking wimps, cuz believe me there are plenty o those too.

Mmm.... fried cat. Good with BBQ sauce.

I recently discovered som crazy ass Gin from Scotland with Cucumber in it. Fucking shit's wierd, but it makes a damn good Martini. Alcohol. the great social lubricant.

Then again, you might come up short only once. I like twin 60m 8.7 for long routes. That is as long as is practical though, in my opinion. It is difficult to communicate between belay ledges, rope drag, management on ledges, weight. The twins still get you off quickly in storms and late descents and it opens up rap lines that look impractical otherwise. I'm with bug. Even at 60 M, communication is almost impossible sometimes with anything other than a light breeze (I solved this by buying a pair of walkie talkies). And that 100 M rope seems like it'd be a belay staion nightmare. more pieces to place, etc. etc. I can see it having it's place, like on long sport routes (Potter's new linkup comes to mind) but in general seems like it'd be a major pain in the kiester.

I'm with you guys. I've seen that often also. Fucking youngsters calling in sick and shit. I never call in sick from my own irresposnible behavior from the night before. It's called ADULTHOOD. Take your fucking lumps and STFU. Then at the end of the day:

I did the exact same thing at Smith once. Got to the anchors on Shamu, was setting up a rap, and noticed I wasn't doubled back right before I leaned back to rap down. Eep. Glad I'm still here.