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That is absolutely horrible. yikes! i certainly hope that she is/was OK after that! Yup! Amazingly she was (still climbing today), her bomb pack protected her back and neck and she only took major damage to her face and head, I had to put her scalp back on and secure it with my cap. She was able to walk back to Melakwa lake ( albeit a little dazed) where we waited 7 hours for an assist. We ended up slipping her into my pack like a little baby and with help, carried her about a mile down the trail where S&R was waiting and a MAST army helecopter ported her out to harborview. Analysis: Climbing on loose rock unroped can mess you up. Ill post a pic if I can find one

Watching my wife tumble 500 feet down chair peak. Running down the talus after her fall and seeing blood spatters on various rocks.

Energy work and aromatherapy or anything that stems from TCM (traditional chinese medicine) and has to do with the "energy body" is actually very valid. They kinda go hand in hand with acupuncture in that they affect the chi pathways ( meridians) in different ways. Pretty amazing stuff and if western medicine ever gets its head out of its ass, maybe well all be a little healthier and more balanced. FYI a killer, albeit deep book on the various energy modalities can be found here. --->Vibrational medicine

You a gillnetter or a TROLLER boy?

Its amazing how powerful we are when sitting behind a monitor. As a fairly new member to this message board after semi recently coming back to the area, I am really amazed at some of you. I have see more foul mouthed and useless rhetoric from the bulk of you. The Dwayer issue is mute by comparison, sit down with the man in serious mode and you'll find an amazing array of knowledge and wisdom along side the often offbeat humor. I dont think most of you even read, but just post visceral comments without base: Why does bug include me and Dwayner in with Trask (does Trask even climb?) Does Bug even read or is he/she just another visceral whiner? Lets just get on with this and enjoy the diversity of the peeps that surround us without resorting to namecalling and bannings.

compromised? hmm loaded for me on the click thru, not sure why.

Lol your humor? heh i dont think you offended me at all? unless i missed something

Whoa Bug, PLEASE dont even lump me with the "master spewers" Trask et al. If anything gets my ire up its being lumped with people that find profanity more useful than interesting beta or thoughtful banter. Check my past posts and my home page (which boasts my own message board). You will find very little BS content . Regarding Dwayner, hes a little nutty but is a pretty darn nice and well rounded chap.

Me mistaken for Dwayner? Ahh MattP, I must clarify by stating I cannot take such a credit. For below you see I am not Dwayner, nor a Dwayner wannabe. I am Honored tho by your query.

Well, I must input at this point, Dwayner might offend some but he has the background to have the leeway to say as he wishes. I think most of the aforementioned "classic sprayers" here are a little too much into the "shock" value and assorted bullfucking shit. At least Dwayner has been climbing in this region for a significantly long enough time to warrant some spew towards the neuvo sportos and their worthless diatribe. The quality of this web endevour is wholly reliant on its community and unfortunately...that says little about the community.

NON climbing but equally in theme with the Northwest spirit.

2 years ago, left 8 cams in a big roof in Zion...it was late, we were frustrated and stressed...just seemed like the right thing to do rather then try to get em and get injured. Came back a week later and they were still dangling, went back up and got em back.

Yup Yup, but I think one can perfect the technique over time. I am more than willing to embrace it as my new avocation, I am sending a PM to Mark Wilford as we speak.

It may just be time to head back up to Ten Percent and restore that to a bold and proper line. I didnt do it when it was first bolted but FUCK...I think the time is ripe.

Obviously most of you are pretty much tunnel vision on this whole topic. Bolting a new line is fine but the thought process needs to be in line with simple respect and quality. I personally bolted a few NICE routes in Kolob Canyons in Zion in the Mid 80's. I put in enough routes to make it a neat place to climb in an astounding area. A few discreet routes...thats all. Just go to Rockclimbing.com and do a search for Kolob Canyons now. Fucking asswipe sportos with no real sense of fucking aesthetics have raped and fucking pillaged an area with the aesthetics of a temple with bolts, rivets, and railroad spikes. Consider the mindless rantings and double speak the the UBER Zion bullshitter Narc Olepsy..."clean climbing ONLY, HAFWEN ONLY", yet the bastard drills pockets and chips crimps in a national park and a State park ( Yes i have climbed with him and helped bust him for some shit up the S face of Timbertop. Fucking so what if pope is coming from what you feel is an 80's sensibility, hell thats when we learned to climb and that was a fine time to be around, when there still was a sense of climbing as a unique endeavor, not some mindless asswipe "club med" activity. I am from the 80's and damn proud of it, I am only sorry most of you never will get to experience those days again. BTW, if your ever in Red Rocks, look to the arete right of Black Track, some dildo bolted the face 2 feet left of the crack. WTF? 1. Hacksaw bolt 2. tap in stud 3. sand/epoxy 4. TYVM

Uh......dude, you're quite a dildo. I'm surprised you didn't see this as another opportunity to post a photo of yourself. DOH! Thats gotta sting.

"Ad Rem Adsum"

Anyone know about routes on the North side of the inlet to Skookumchuck Res. (Thurston County)? I was there years ago bushwhacking around but we ended up on the South shore and no where near any rock. Is it worth the thrash or a big waste of time?

My biggest peeve is climber and hikers that dont have a leashed dog. Regardless of the dogs focus and training, there are times when a leash is a common courtesy. Jumar is always on a leash, and I step well off trail when I encounter oncoming traffic. I am amazed at how many times peeps have thanked me for simply being in control of my dog. Heads up!, this dog is verified cool, chill and can climb 5.4. She is aid tho... Jumar, my psycho love puppy.

Anyone here besides Pope remember a little Japanese exchange student named Takao? LOL, he always gave me crap for carrying too much gear, but he also conceded that the extra weight was a great training tool. What ever happened to him? Anyone know?

My helmet is becoming a more constant companion on a variety of routes. After my wife fell 500 feet off of Chair peak in 1991 I get twitchy at the thought of even a short bad fall and soft tissue. Proper helmet decorations should be creative and hand made: Coconut Monkey and Monster Truck drawings

Heyas, I am heading up to Static point with a noob friend tomorrow, been like 12 years since i've been there, is the road and trail still the same or has logging happened and changed everything? Any good info would be great! Thanks in advance!

I saw it as (at the time) an obscure sport that made you think. It was not a mainstream activity and therefore, being on the fringe it was an attractive alternative to the generic and cumbersome "American sports". At the time, very few people were climbing and because of that there were few "rulesets", no one could critisize you for what you did, and there was no dogma as associated with ball and team sports, you just enjoyed the sport as an end in itself and found within it a brotherhood of kindrid, free spirits.

Good job Holly, I noticed your thread on RC.com too. Cheers to your kindness and forethought! I hope the riteful owners contact you. Too bad this board has so many kids and morons (often the same) that have nothing more to do that act like rude little pricks.

NICE! Does that include the drama theme?