Billygoat

I feel like Minx on this one: I am cautious and actually seem to enjoy myself more no matter what the outcome. Snowbyrd: I'm psyched to hook up your ten y/o with my eight y/o and do some climbing with you at Kid's Rope-Up Telemarker: Please describe a more stylish way to gain the ledge off the first pitch of Canary. I cannot picture it Weren't we supposed to go skiing at one point a few years ago? Still interested?! Rudy: I'll bite. Tell us about the Dream.

You guys know more will show up. What about Parker? Save the group site...

Nice photos That summit ridge shot looks airy...

Thanks Fats Stay tuned to see if we'll be needing that site. Remember: You can only drink so much Scotch and your Yacht can only go so fast...

wish I could go Mark. good luck

Sweet

Mark's Birthday Calling Dave Bale aka. "The Worst Dad in Leavenworth" I think he took his twins up Saber when they were one..."just taking the boys out for a stroll honey..." Dave where are you.....?!

...And carry lots of GU, Landjaegar and water...

If worse comes to worse we'll do that. Maybe we should put the shout out to GregW. He has a puppy. That's kinda like a kid...

Update: Heather now coming. C'mon guys, commit to this line...

Mike, if you can identify the bad guy in this fucker of a mess, I fully support your killing him and his backers.

PM Hilweasel. His daughter is 14 I think. They came to the last one.

Chili con cairns

Damn Hoss! Whoz that filly?! She speaka my language...

Coming: Bill E. Goat and Jed Finn(8) Tentative: Heather Way to pull the trigger on this sucker Bug I will bring your beer Master

Out of control...

Mike, are these guys, like Sadr, numerous or just really influential. My friends who are Iraqis say that most people over there are glad we are there and threw out Saddam, but worry that, since we have created a power vacuum, if we don't stay and finish the job, the radical fundamentalists will take over and propel them back into the Middle ages. My point is, did we polarize things by invading, and give these fringe yahoos more clout than they deserve? Also what politics is hamstringing the operations? It seems like everyone is fighting hard. Why not assassinate Sadr? We should question the Saudis more about their countrymen's role in 9/11. I don't envy where you are at. I hope you keep your wits about you and make it back. We care about you guys, I am just pissed about how I perceive the "why". Your talk about that meeting with Sadr has made this whole thing a little more real for me.

Yeah, the shit is going to hell in a hand basket while you have been gone. Get back here Mike and lets do battle on some of these real enemies of the state.

Nice What was the climbing like and where did you pick up the boot track to Lewis Lake?

*bump*

Actually Merv, science used to be considered Natural Philosophy. Science is a religion too. There just seems to be more tangible results for those worshipping in that church...

Will, I think Whirlwind is just saying "WOW" that's a lot of people dependent on the payroll. I did not catch him saying we should down size. In fact I think he was pointing out that Bush is lowering pay and benefits to the soldiers and I say he is outsourcing the jobs and money to his friends in the private sector. Maybe Peter Puget or J_b can help me here, but I think the total "defense" spending you are a part of is roughly 50% of the national budget. Social programs are only about 2%. So don't worry about a bunch of unworthy poor people getting a whole lot of the pie... This defense spending benefits society as a whole. I agree with that. This current war, however, does not. social "handouts" also benefit society. They are like Insurance. People fall into bad situations and the idea is to help them out of it and become productive citizens. Sure, there are a few that abuse the system, but I would bet the large majority do not

All religions are the same. People get into trouble when the community/social aspect is discarded and they begin to take themselves too seriously. Ultimately, religion is highly personal. If I need to talk with God, I call him on the batphone....

I hear you Mike. I think what most of us are reacting to is the lies that bring us here, to this situation. In a free society information should be up front and we can decide what is important and what action to take. No one likes being lied to and that engenders distrust. I appreciate your honest reasons for being there. Aaron, that is uncool! I'll gladly hold you down while Mr. Damerung gives you a wood shampoo....

I'll bet Greg plays with his six shooter on Sunday mornings while watching Bonanza re-runs in his underwear, sitting inside a fort made of sofa cushions.... "Hey there little Joe, Imma getting mighty hungry." "Go up and git some cheerios from the pantry there Hoss, you fat fuck."