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Yeah, that clip has been posted here before. The leader was a dumbass for not getting any gear in when he had the perfect opportunity. From the way he seems to ignore jam cracks, he strikes me as a sport climber just getting into trad climbing.

Duh, we all know Land Sharks don't exist.

Type 2 is a whole lot more common than Type 1 and the situation is getting progressively worse. Seattle Students getting Junk-Food Fix Elsewhere (Seattle PI)

pink, some of us feel neglected.

We're gonna lure out old Beck with this one. He can't resist.

I think it will all blow over. You watch.

A classic backhanded compliment. Here's another. "I really don't like those skinny-as-a-rail chicks. I like girls like you, who have a little meat on them."

"Oh!", he thought. It wasn't really a tauntaun, but the puddle formed from a spilled Big Gulp. He'd slipped and hit his head.

My chemistry kit is limited to beer and Tylenol. I'll bring my down parka for the bivy. I'm not particularly sensitive to smoke, so I won't complain about your rasta kit.

For every climber SAR event there are 50 missing children, 100 alzheimer's victims who have wandered away, 10 lost hunters. Those events don't have the same drama that lost climbers do. How are climbers any less deserving than anyone else?

Pindude is a big shot with the Spokane Mountaineers. Send him a PM. There's also a guy named Donny Baker...

This was covered already by another poster on the main Hood thread. Winter is the safest time to climb this particular route for a number of reasons. You can't go and blame people just because the outcome was bad. These northside routes have been safely climbed numerous times. Okay (edit) Mr. Phil beat me to the punch, but I concur that the intense media focus on this accident has caused a distortion of reality. People just don't have the expertise to pass judgment.

Second post since 2004. Welcome back Beck!

Look up Dave (Thinker). I am pretty sure he still lives in Salt Lake.

Ha ha! Keep 'em coming Raindawg!

Well do you think it would be a good thing to better educate the general public about climbing? I don't think it will ever become "mainstream", at least I hope not. I rather like the idea of climbing as a fringe activity.

w00t, w00t! See you there.

One can compare Bill O'Reilly to Washington State's people's initiative process. Some uninformed wacko get's an idea and thinks there should be a new law. There's a good reason we have a legislature. Those elected officials are paid to study all proposals and come up with good laws. People think they can become an expert on anything, like climbing, in one week.

In answer to your original question, if you are using half ropes you should clip alternately for greatest redundancy, UNLESS you have a good reason to do otherwise. If the route wanders way left and then right again, that would be a good reason to clip only the "red" rope initially, and then the "green" further up the pitch.

Lots of very hard wind crust on exposed slopes. Bring crampons.

I think that there is a perception that if risk taking is part of making a living or your everyday life that it is more "acceptable" than risk taking for recreation. I'd ask the question, why? I don't think that it is any more legitimate to take the risk of driving to the Gorge for a concert than it is to drive to Vantage to climb rocks.

A bulletin board is just a multiuser blog with interactive, capabilities.

Someone early in the thread brought up almost the same sort of statement as Luke and it was addressed and debunked. Obviously, he didn't bother to read the whole thread from the start.

They are a lot more PUBIC.

This boy is getting the hell out of Dodge.