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Dru is talking about Decimus Brutus.

English translation: "Does any one know how Probable Cause works and whether it applies to driving? More specifically, can one be pulled over if he is not breaking the law? "

Without looking them up, which is more correct? Farther or Further Farthermost or Furthermost Farthermore or Furthermore Thaw or Unthaw

That was certainly disturbing.

There is an entire detailed thread on it here .

Who's going to pull the bodies out of the camp fire?

Climb: Castle and Pinnacle Peaks-South Face Date of Climb: 3/13/2004 Trip Report: JGowans, matthew and I drove down from Seattle and arrived just after the gate opened at 8 am. After a fair amount of fiddlefarting around at the Narada Falls parking lot we were off at 9 am. The snow was hard enough that we carried our snowshoes, but half way up the slope we started postholing and had to put them on. Walked Stevens Creek road to Reflection Lakes and caught up with a couple of older gentlemen who were out to climb The Castle. They asked us to kick a good set of steps up the snow slope for them. They weren't quite as fast as we, but made pretty good time. We reached the Saddle at 10:45 am and left some of our gear there. We did a level traverse on soft snow across the south face of Castle and turned up a gully and onto some 4th class rocks for about a pitch and onto the slopes of the east face where the two older gents had caught up to us by taking the more direct route. The five of us chatted a bit on the summit. Of of the guys was climbing with one lung and a heart condition. He told me he had 55 years of climbing experience. His partner Steve told me that he had been on the FWA party of Pinnacle with Ed Cooper. He said that Ed was the ropegun that day on the East Ridge. It was really cool meeting these guys. They were inspiring. We downclimbed the 25 ft or so down to the snow and decided to traverse the snow slopes of the North Face to get back to the saddle (to avoid the postholing on the south side). After a break at the saddle for lunch we traversed the south face of Pinnacle to a sort of gully where we turned up and onto a short section of fourth class rock. At the top of this we found a small tree with red slings around it. We continued up easy snow to the summit which we reached at 2 pm. I belayed my partners half a rope length down from the tree and then rappelled myself. We were back to the car by 4 pm. Beers at Copper Creek Inn by 5 pm. Home for last supper. Gear Notes: Don't need a rope for Castle, you are confident at downclimbing. Most would want a rope to descend from Pinnacle. Brought crampons, but didn't really need them. Brought a picket and fluke- used the fluke once below the gully on Pinnacle. Brought a small rock rack, but didn't need it. Approach Notes: Need snowshoes or skis for the hike out on the road.

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I was doing my ironing, if you must know.

Most likely April 15.

Oh, oh, I detect partner problems...

There's a line up of nuns for confessional. The priest asks the first nun Sister Karen what she has to confess, to which Sister Karen replies, "Forgive me father for I have sinned, I touched a man's penis with me finger." "Well then, I am sure it must have happened in a crowded elevator, sister", said the priest". "Ah, yes, father, it was something like that, just the tip of me finger". The priest says, "Okay, dip the tip of your finger in the Holy Water, and say ten Hail Marys, and you will be forgiven. " The next nun is a little reluctant but declares, "Forgive me father for I have sinned, I fondled and stroked a man's penis with me 'and." The priest says, "Surely the man must have been injured by his fly zipper and had come to you for care". "Ay, it was something like that", says the nun. "Okay, dip your hand in the holy water and say 100 hail Mary's and you will be forgiven." All of a sudden there is a lot of commotion in the line of nuns. One nun is pushing her way to the front of the line. When she reaches the front of the line the priest comes out and says "Sister, Sister what seems to be the rush??? " The nun replies, "If I'm going to have to gargle that Holy Water, I want to go before Sister Mary sticks her arse in it!!! "

Besides pickup trucks, all of these drugs were advertised during the NASCAR race yesterday. What does that say about NASCAR viewers? Just an observation.

Undoubtedly a sporto.

Nice work guys, sounds like you hit it in good condition. Toast, did you use any snow pro? Was it icy enough to take pickets or flukes?

That's strange because I have never had any of the problems which you describe.

Nice work. Major envy factor going on.

One of the things I remember about the Aiken Lava Bed is there were these rock "islands" sticking up through the snow with miniature gardens of alpine trees that to me resembled japanese gardens complete with bonsai trees. They were quite beautiful. I've got a picture of them somewhere.

Klenke, your new title, "volcano bigot", is an apt on.

Gotta love Gary Trudeau. That guy must thank his lucky stars every day. GW practically writes his strip for him.

What were the temperatures when you set out and when you were on route?

Man, that was beautiful. It belongs in the Post Like Klenke thread. Oh, wait, that thread doesn't exist - yet.

We were looking straigth up at your route yesterday from the top of Pinnacle peak. Gib Ledges looked pretty good from there. You nailed the weather for sure. There was a faint lenticular up there. It was hard to say how much wind there was- at least some from the north. Whether successful or not, please post a TR.

I think that blue_morph has made one of the best arguments against user fees. His argument is not that the fees are a barrier to entry to us fanatics, but that it is a barrier to "discovery" by those new and unfamiliar to outdoor recreation. That if it were true would be a real shame.