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Don't forget that Mr. Sherman was rapelling on a single static line using a GriGri. The loads imparted using this method would be far in excess of what they would be using dynamic line and an ATC.

Nowhere does it say not to girth hitch this material. Granted, this is not the same 7-8 mm material in question.

You have a good point. Manufacturers have not done enough to explain the proper use of these slings. It should not be surprising to anyone that when you go "high tech" that there will be more limitations on how the equipment can be used than the low tech alternative.

Indeed. We had Wayne, Dave, Matt, Ross, Jim, Kelly, Rob, Jason, Samantha and myself. Jim told some stories about F--d that had me laughing my head off.

The more guns the better. If everyone packed heat, crime would decrease. Plus the stupid/criminal types would get weeded out real quick. Guns are great, if used properly. This is wishful thinking. More likely we'd see more people killed by guns, because they are so often NOT used properly. More arguments would be settled with bullets, rather than words or fists.

I detect just a hint of sarcasm here.

I just think that people need to realize that Spectra should be regarded rather like wire instead of like cord. Don't do anything with Spectra that you wouldn't do with wire. This modulus on this stuff is so low that it just doesn't tolerate sharp bends under load. Always use carabiners to join Spectra slings to other components of your system. It is notable that we have not heard about sling failure when this stuff is catching lead falls. There is a reason for this. Most people use of carabiners.

http://www.ramutasresoles.com Apparently he's not using Stone Gardens as a drop off point anymore, but the three Vertical World gyms are still available. REI used to do it but not anymore. How about Feathered Friends? Do they still ship?

Meps! Consuming mass quanities, of course!

At the time, I concluded that this thread was about dog fleas, but I wasn't sure.

Has Pope ever been to a Pub Club? I saw Dwayner one time when the moon was blue.

Suffice it to say that this killing had nothing to do with the other incident in which the two women were murdered.

Someone needs to read this thread so he can get out of jury duty and go to Smith this weekend.

Was it really necessary to move the ENTIRE thread to Spray?

Which gym do you frequent?

Selkirk, I suggest that you go climb that route again and then see what you think.

You two work well together.

I can understand the motivation, but not the wisdom of it. If you did this, any fall would be a FF 2 fall on a single piece.

Going to Pub Club tomorrow, Wayne? I want to shake your hand. Nice article!

Why would someone do this? That doesn't strike me as a wise thing to do at all.

I would argue that these results are by no means counter intuitive. Low-impact force of rope reduces loading on last point of protection. Static Belay device increases loading on last point. Friction along the chain of protection increases loading on the last point. This is the take home message from the Beal site. Friction from changes of rope angle at carbiners and from rubbing on rock increases the "effective fall factor". Quote are mine. If you restrict movement of the rope, it cannot stretch to absorb the impact. The last segment of the rope has to absorb most of the impact. The best way to think of it is that the true fall factor (or effective FF) is higher than the calculated fall factor.

A round profile would tend to make the sling weaker when used around an object with a small radius compared to a flat profile. I would never use such a sling with anything but a carabiner. No girth hitches. Heat resistance, yes. UV resistance, no. My experience with Kevlar sails is that light breaks them down pretty quickly, about twice as fast as polyester.

I saw this story in the newspaper this morning. I thought it was a interesting read. The guy has hired noted local attorney Steve Berman to represent him. My take is that, while he won't come out of this smelling like a rose, he just might be vindicated. Edwin Wilson Story

I saw an article on a scientific study of hallucinogenic mushrooms just last week. I can't remember where I saw it.

KOMO News Don't know if anyone saw this but there was a missing 19 year old thought to be a murder victim. They had to let the suspected killer go because they couldn't find a body. The related story