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Anyone need a belay bitch tonight after work? I can still belay up to 5.9 even if I am turning into a weak assed pussy. You pick the line and I'll struggle up it.

One thing jb and I could probably find many points of agreement on is the role of globalization in forcing down and lowering US wages. I've sadly seen many jobs go to China in the name of lowering costs for us consumers and increasing company profits. It's a good thing on the one hand (who goes to the store and wants to pay more for all of their items?) and it's damn scary and extremely worrisome to me at the same time. I don't know what to do and I have conflicting thoughts: protectionism has been shown to have real bad outcomes for the total economy and who wants to pay over $5,000 for a wide screen TV that they can get off the shelf (made in China) for $890?

Well jb, I agree with Rob. With all of your crazy personal attacks on every thread you post on, the rest of us are left assuming that you are projecting your own inner angry "racist fuck" with your incessant and unnecessary projecting attacks on everyone....you should look into Rob's blowjob idea. So much anger inside of you there, get out and climb something will ya. Sometimes you seem like you could be a nice person.

This just seems so wrong on so many levels.... "BrewDogs strongest beer is packaged inside the bodies of dead animals" "A diamond encrusted bottle, perhaps an 18 carat solid gold bottle top? Scottish company, BrewDog, are set to make history by selling the world’s strongest, most expensive and most shocking bottles of beer. At a mere $765 a bottle, you’d be entitled to have some extraordinary expectations, but “The End Of History” is guaranteed to shock even those with the wildest imaginations. With the average beer being around 5% alcohol, BrewDog’s invention is 55% alcohol and comes served in roadkill! That’s right, the bottle is served within the body of a dead squirrel. Only 12 bottles were made and incredibly, they are now completely sold out with buyers coming from Canada, Italy, Denmark, Scotland, England and the US. They mystery buyers, are now eagerly awaiting delivery, with BrewDog expected to ship the bottles out next week. While some have argued that the beer is an expensive novelty, others have branded it cruel, sick and warped. The buyers of “The End of History” beers, whoever they may be, will no doubt find their purchase to be a true conversational piece when it goes on show."

OK -time to put up or shut up, how much more than your competitors are you paying YOUR employees? Maybe I should walk away from this and go to work for you, oh blessed great employer jb who does so much for so many. I must have been wrong about you as strictly based on your posts you sound like a know-nothing parasite. How many employees do you have?

As I read this you are encouraging folks to not argue with you. bye!

Money sucking parasites, such as yourself, certainly would feel that way. However, there are more public sector jobs than ever and they are better paid than ever. It's fucking out of control. We need to reduce the size of government, not enlarge it. That includes the military AND this massive bureaucracy. That unwarranted attack on Jayb is obviously just more pettiness, stupidity and smallness of mind on your part in a way to throw off the important issues and so that you can remain a parasite. Seriously, what positive things have YOU ever done for the country? Bitching about things that don't matter on a climbing bulletin board are excluded in case you think this matters at all: which it don't. You ever create one job? Create anything of value? Do anything?

If Prole and jb are the same, I'd like to ask jb to drop the jb and just go with Prole, Prole seems nicer.

Maybe these are YOUR wars and BUSH was your boy Matt. I voted for Kerry and was outraged when Geo W Bush et al choose to commit our country to war in Iraq. For jb to indicate otherwise is just stupidity on his part. Show me a post of mine where I ever supported starting these wars or supported the Bush administration borrowing this country into hell. I will say that after we had been years in Iraq, AFTER we'd spent the countries treasure and AFTER they'd spent about 750,000,000 on the new embassy there, it did not make sense to me that we would just get up and walk away leaving the country to fall apart. As far as your group being dedicated and underpaid Matt, it warms my heart with gladness to hear the first part. You sound blessed with a good group. However, I have never heard of any Federal Worker being underpaid, although it may be true with a person here or a group there (lawyers, for instance) in fact study after study indicates the reverse. Furthermore, the Federal government appears to me to be much like an ever expanding and out of control unstoppable entity hell bent on getting bigger at the expense of our freedoms. States and local governments vary radically per each location, and they are dwarfed by the Feds power and reach as well. We, as a country, MUST get the massive federal government, our trade account balance, and our budget under control, (military spending is a huge part of this) IMO there is no bigger issue for us.

You and your type are so busy talking that you don't read at all - do ya. Your false attacks are just that. It may make you feel intelligent, but for everyone reading- it has the opposite effect.

Novel idea, kind of like the "Buy Fish (Russ) a beer" thing. https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_flow&SESSION=VRt2DABhq4SLG81o1-3zCLxMCUFMIGAfl6cRoBZ9HuuPoQgwyEHMw6SOpze&dispatch=50a222a57771920b6a3d7b606239e4d529b525e0b7e69bf0224adecfb0124e9b61f737ba21b081983b975b35e10fe14fd9a7167ca5aec13b The date is 2003, wonder if he ever got his car? They're still accepting money. As long as he's so into supporting offshore manufacturing, maybe he should shoot a little higher and get these idiots to pony up for 26 Rolls Royces.

Well, things may be out of control on a local level, but at least the "Progressives" have things well in hand nationally. WHOOPS....nevermind.... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100723/ap_on_bi_ge/us_budget_deficit_2 "WASHINGTON – New estimates from the White House on Friday predict the budget deficit will reach a record $1.47 trillion this year. The government is borrowing 41 cents of every dollar it spends." Holy shit, couple of zillion trillion more and that's almost real money. jb's childrens children will be working overtime to pay off this debt to the Chinese. I thought it was only the "Regressives" that were borrow and spend? Looks like there's no difference to me. It appears that both Bush and Obama must have their wives do their personal finances. Maybe we can get them elected instead instead of these out of control spenders?

It's been noted that if we took half the money we spend on locking up folks who are only hurting themselves (this isn't the vicious addict hitting an old lady over the head who would still go directly to Jail, would not pass go and would not collect $200), and spent it on REHAB, we would be much further along and that recidivism rates would go down as well. One of the things I repeatedly see in the US is that average joes get to mandate policy as knee jerk reaction, even if they are wrong. Our prison policy should run by scientists with oversight, and not by the uninformed public who just want to lock em all up and toss the key. I don't have the numbers in front of me, but at one point I'd seen the increase in recidivism (those who get out of jail and then re-offend) had risen dramatically because of this California policy change.

NOT! http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100721/od_nm/us_china_beating Chinese police beat official's wife by mistake Wed Jul 21, 1:09 pm ET BEIJING (Reuters) – Plainclothes police severely beat the wife of a provincial official, mistaking her for one of many Chinese who petition government offices in the hope of redressing wrongs, the China Daily reported on Wednesday. The case of mistaken identity has become a hot topic among Chinese Internet users, highlighting the abuse that China's armies of petitioners routinely suffer at the hands of police and hired thugs who wish to silence them. Six public security officers set on Chen Yulian, the wife of a provincial law enforcement officer, last month when she tried to enter her husband's office building, which houses the Hubei provincial party headquarters, the China Daily said. "This incident is a total misunderstanding," the Communist Party chief of the district bureau explained, according the newspaper. "Our police officers never realized that they beat the wife of a senior leader." China's leaders are obsessed with maintaining social stability and "building a harmonious society" has been their chief concern in the recent years. Thousands of petitioners take their grievances to Beijing every day. Many of their complaints stem from land seizures, while others seek redress for lay-offs dating from massive bankruptcies in China's state sector in the 1990s. The men who beat Chen were later identified as public security officers from Wuhan, the provincial capital, who had been assigned to guard the office building and "subdue" petitioners. "A strong wave of fists rained down on her for more than 16 minutes," the report said. Chen was knocked to the ground despite her attempt to explain that her husband worked in the office building. She was then transported to a police station and yelled at when she requested medical attention, according to the paper's account. The attack left her with a concussion, and damaged brain and nerve tissues. Chen was released and sent to hospital after she reached her husband by phone, and ranking police officers apologized profusely. "Does this mean the police are not supposed to beat leaders' wives, but the ordinary people can be battered?" the China Daily quoted an anonymous visitor to Chen's ward as saying. (Reporting by Beijing Newsroom; Editing by Lucy Hornby and Ken Wills)" Opps.

I finally got up there and climbed last night. It was as bad as I've ever climbed - whatever the reverse of flow is, but I didn't see any signs that said no climbing anywhere. When did they take them down, or was it a joke?

It's been done. Kurt Vonnegut: Player Piano. Great work too and it seems to coming to fruition 50 years after he wrote it. .

Great read, thanks for the link! However, regarding this part of the story: " The racists remain his adversary every day, even in the village clinic where Jim works and where we later talked about eugenics. “We think that’s history,” he said, “but what’s the trickle-down? In this building there is very free and easy access to birth control. Any type of birth control you can imagine, and if you still find yourself pregnant, there is free abortion. There’s no polite way to say it—to cut down on breeding. It’s not just accessible, it’s promoted. Kill your baby. And when you talk about values changing, when you no longer see your children as a blessing, that is some really bad stuff.”" It's an interesting viewpoint as many pregger women, pre-abortion, didn't see the value of children as well, yet I remember before Roe V Wade, rich women who wanted to not carry a baby to term merely flew over and back to a country that had abortion. Poor women were literally screwed. As far as that goes, I bet a study of class/money and abortions would show a similar trend today, regardless of race.

That's the one ! Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!!! He said. In the end they just shut the hell up and paid the ransom, and the public, thinking the big stick had won the day, went happy with crazed madness. How could you not vote for the man? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Perdicaris Oh I'm pretty sure he'd get both Jasmine and I Doug although her parents were pretty clear that by marrying a white guy she was actually marrying down and weakening their race! LOL! They tried to be nice about it at least. I really hadn't thought about it till then, imagine that, lived together for 4 years and finally get a wake up call from your in-laws to be that your wife to be is another race. Once the first grandchild got here they started being color blind and accepted me into the family, that's what unconditional love will do for you I suppose.

Back when the Hydra that was Standard Oil was forming under John D Rockefeller's tutelage, Government, let by trustbuster Teddy Roosevelt, let the charge to change it, reduce it and force competition. John D wasn't aware of the extent that these people needed donations and the motivations thereof and he was relatively politically unmotivated until after the breakup. This is totally at odds and with different rules of engagement with how current large corporations operate. When the current Hydra-like big Government has grown too monopolistic and omniscient and all powerful, what can you do? Where is Teddy? That they can take a billion here and a billion there or only $100,000,000 of our money and so gracefully toss it to Blackwater to make it disappear is as disconcerting on the Government side to me as the reverse. I don't doubt that we as a country see some good come of it, but the size and role of government is the real concern. Who is really watchdogging any of this hidden invisible to citizen's stuff? I remember reading that the military had 28,000 hires who's sole job it was was to work on publicity so that folks the world over think good thoughts of us. Holy crap! 28,000 people! That did not include contractors hired to do the same.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100722/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_drug_war_mexico Fortunately, Mexico has strict gun control laws, so they got them out of the hands of honest Mexicans and only the criminals and the police are armed (often they are samesame over there). Looks like the town is tied up in knots. Thu Jul 22, 11:13 am ET NUEVO LAREDO, Mexico – Late-night gunbattles with gangs who forced citizens from their cars and used the vehicles to block streets paralyzed a border city, sound of gunfire alarmed Texans on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande. The Nuevo Laredo city government posted messages on Facebook warning citizens to stay indoors as the battles erupted at several intersections in the city across from Laredo, Texas. Frightened people on the U.S. side of the border called emergency dispatchers after hearing the gunfire, Laredo police spokesman Joe Baeza said Thursday. But he said there was no spillover violence. "We were getting reports from people who live on the river's edge that they could hear gunfire and explosions from the Mexico side," Baeza said. "We didn't have any incidents on the American side. It's hard for people to understand who don't live here," he added. "They're not Vikings, they're not going to invade us, it doesn't work that way." Nuevo Laredo city officials said they could not immediately confirm witness reports that several gunmen were killed. Gangs used stolen cars and buses to block several main avenues in the city across from Laredo, Texas. Several residents called local newspapers to report thefts. "For your security, stay in your homes until the alert has passed," the city government wrote on Facebook. When the violence subsided, the government urged citizens to come forward and reclaim their stolen vehicles. Nuevo Laredo is among several northern cities under siege from a turf battle between the Gulf cartel and its former enforcers, the Zetas gang of hit men. Violence has surged along the northeastern border with the United States since the two gangs split earlier this year. Gangs have frequently blocked streets in the middle of the cities to thwart soldiers coming to the aid of colleagues under fire. In the northern state of Chihuahua, a banner appeared on a bridge threatening violence against "innocents" unless the state government fires its chief of police intelligence, Fernando Ornelas, the Diario de Juarez newspaper reported Thursday. The banner appeared in the state capital, also called Chihuahua. Last week, drug gangs introduced a new threat to Mexico's drug war, detonating their first successful car bomb. The attack killed a federal police officer and two others in Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua's largest city.

He says from LaGrande he's going up hwy 82 towards Enterprise and NOT continuing on the freeway to Idaho, the Elkhorn detour is the other way for him then and would add well over a hundred miles wouldn't it? He's going to Montana, and theres lots of Granite he could find there that is much nicer than anything in the Elkhorns. (Boulder Batholith, Whisky Gulch) You really think it's worth the extra drive time to head up and back to Lagrande for him? It's not like he's heading to a slug infested wetlands devoid of good rock like if he was heading the opposite direction. LOL!

http://www.startribune.com/nation/98965919.html Holy crap, sounds like one of them was blown clean off the mountain. Crazy scary stuff, hope that the last person gets found and rescued off.

I think the Anthony lakes choice would be #1, except that it's way out of your way. If it was me, I'd probably hike up the Lostine till I got tired, and just hang out in the wilderness for a day trip. Probably take my rock shoes and a day pack with lunch is all. I've never done Sac in the summer but I suspect it would be boring as hell, in the winter/spring the North side can be fawking awesome with some kick assed ice and snow with some rock pro available. Where's all the dudes from Lagrande these days? Maybe they should check in and spray on this.

Well you'd be real freaked to start with when Ivan pulls out the rope with a core shot and you are expected to just ignore the white patch and rap 600' off the deck then as well I'd bet LOL!