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kbone -How many bones are running around on this site anyway? I think you use your judgment. I mean, I own an 18 fall full sized 11mil rope thats only 50meters long and used primarily for rapping to clean and toproping, it gets pressed into service as a lead line if a route gets cleaned and it's the rope sitting there - and I own a 9.2mm 5-fall Beal Joker that has a significantly shorter shelf life. I store them all in rope bags on a shelf in my basement. They're all different. The last 11mil I owned, I used it for 8 or 9 years for toproping, but retired some primarily lead ropes during that time which progressed from being lead ropes/topropes, to being only topropes, to being cut up for use as hand lines, tow lines and slings for topropes. "When in doubt......throw it out" is the rule. Even not knowing the size, I don't think I'd have an issue climbing on your rope for toproping as long as you've kept it in a ropebag off the battery acid on the ground, and the sheath still looks good and not too furred. BTW, recent posts from the president of the German alpine association has suggested that you don't have to worry about older ropes...but the testing and reports have some gaping holes IMO. Toproping use, which tears a rope up more than most other uses, was one of them.

:confused huh?

I'm OK with the statute. It only specifys charging climbers for a rescue. I'd like to backup just a tad: My question is this: why should the state be the self-appointed babysitter for climbers? In my mind, they have no business being in the rescue business.

Anyone here know Jim Robinson? Let him know that his sister Debbie is looking for him.

Gent last spring

Peruvian surfing cat:

Whoa whoa whoa there buddy!!!!!!!! easy up on the ageism .... and the fatass who can't get off the couch thing too OK? Lets not get too personal OK? It's ok to be an old fatass couchmaster hey?!! Group hug.

SHhhhhhhhhhh, SC, hey tone it down will ya, thats the best pic I've seen in a long time, lets encourage it staying around hey?

Don't see it Ivan. I could see it would make a good point to your story. I see lots of other interesting things though: ----wait---got it right here: ______________________________________________________ Who can photoshop Beacon in there?

Is that not a perfect cartoon? 111, don't be talkin about murdering anyone, it's bullshit. Besides, I thought you had this going on: You should be paying attention to things that are important to you.

Okay you dumb cunt, here is your run on sentence. According to this poorly constructed attempt, you are saying that both things are irritating. Ouch!

Congrats 111, if she's that good inside you got a winner, remember that it's whats inside that counts. Outside is just a bonus that can and will change over time.

The top 4 Delorme PN-20 Garmin Colorado 400T Bushnell Magellan Triton series Of these, only Delorme seems to have worked out the bugs. Furthermore, only the Magellan with the National Geographic maps comes close to the Delorme for map quality. The Bushnell looks amazingly fantastic and like it would be the #1 choice for climbers as it has real time weather forecasting....just imagine being able to see that huge thunderstorm 2 ridges over heading your way! That is, if they can work the bugs out. I'm 90% decided on a Delorme, and 9% Garmin 60Csx.

Well, it looks like the Colorados wont be ready for prime time for a while, and a couple of these reviews make it sound horrible. REI has an exclusive on the 400t (for topo) until 2-11-08. Reviews from here: (click link for them all, I edited some of the fluff out, check out the "name" of the first poster) Link to REI reviews of Garmin 400t Colorado series GPS Delorme anyone? Needs a lot of work By Lloyd Anderson Site Member from seattle, wa on 1/27/2008 Pros: Strong Construction Cons: Bulky, Inaccurate, Short Battery Life Best Uses: Adventure, Auto, Hiking, Travel Describe Yourself: Gearhead, Outdoor Enthusiast, Technically Savvy Bottom Line: No, I would not recommend this to a friend Base map of streets wildly inacurate. Short run time and backlight trouble when running on NiMH batteries. Topo software not included for computer. No turn by turn directions or tide tables as stated in specs. Lock ups & power offs. Poor value. Graphically pleasing, yet awkward menu system. Has potential, but needs a lot of work. ___________________________________________________________ What are we, Garmin's Beta Testers? By bkmollen from Ohio on 1/26/2008 Bottom Line: No, I would not recommend this to a friend This unit has a lot of issues [...]not to mention that it dumped all the Topo maps for its memory and they cannot be replaced. Call Garmin Tech Support and they confirmed the maps were gone and the unit was defective. Was this review helpful to you? Yes/No- You may also flag this review. ________________________________________________ Comments: What about planning? By OregoneSite Member from Portland OR on 1/25/2008 Pros: Nice user interface, Simple Controls Cons: Spendy Bottom Line: No, I would not recommend this to a friend The rolling interface is very nice indeed but overall the value didn't justify the price. The preloaded TOPO sounds good but will leave you wondering how to plan a route. You'll still have to purchase some form of TOPO mapping software if you want to plan a wilderness route and transfer it to the device. For me and my money it was a better deal to go with the 60CSx, and the TOPO and save $. ___________________________________________________________ Comments: Cache Companion - Cool, Clean By Dog TooSite Member from Tucson AZ on 1/18/2008 Pros: Compact, Easy To Read, Easy To Set Up, Long Battery Life, Reliable Performance, Simple Controls, Strong Construction Bottom Line: Yes, I would recommend this to a friend Wow...clean, clear device...acquires signal quickly even without a open sky. Easy to use and looks as get as it works.

A survey stake was put in next to the West side Ozone access trail the other day. Any thoughts? I may have a good guess I'd like to share. I'm thinking they're turning the area into a park and are surveying the Forest Service land on the far side where it hits private property. Anyone wants to get involved in the Cape Horn Park project it really looks worthy (link below). They should be our natural allies and could most likely use any help we can provide. It probably also explains why strangers/non-climbers have hiked to the base of the cliff just sniffing around, seeing that the trail dead ends: they say hi and leave. BTW, from the newer Cape Horn trail that those folks just put in, its a great hike and view of *cough* Ozone *cough* once you are almost to the river. Not following the directions they give on the site, start from the hard right turn in the SR14 road: there is lots of parking there. Head south and turn right before you fall over the cliff. There was a private parcel of land below and slightly west of the Zone which the FS must have purchased recently. If you haven't done the hike, it's pretty good conditioning as it drops down off the rim. Link says: "Cape Horn Park and Trail The Cape Horn Trail provides stunning vistas less than 30 minutes from the Portland/Vancouver Metropolitan area. Let's make it official! The Cape Horn Overlook along Washington's HWY 14 provides one of the most scenic viewpoints in the Gorge, yet the view is only accessible along a dangerous highway pull out. With the recent public purchases of hundreds of acres on top of Cape Horn now, an official trail and overlook area above the highway pull out can provide a safer and more stunning recreation opportunity for Gorge lovers. The top of Cape Horn was originally planned as a subdivision in the 1980's. In the mid-1980's the Trust for Public Land (TPL) bought 12 of the 16 subdivision lots. The U.S. Forest Service then bought the land from TPL. Columbia Land Trust purchased two properties in 2001, and with a 2004 U.S. Forest Service purchase, a loop was created by trail enthusiasts, making the area accessible to the public. In 2006, Friends of the Columbia Gorge Land Trust purchased the one developed lot from the subdivision and has an option to purchase the private other rim view property. Friends' Campaign for Cape Horn is working to raise funds to secure the properties and provide a public overlook. For scenic beauty and recreation access, there is no other place like it on the Washington side of the Columbia River Gorge." Thats my thoughts on whats going on out there anyway.

I think that the best thing you can do is to live long and prosper. Seriously, as far as "getting back" at these dripping cocks, the best way to do that is sharing that awareness of exactly what happened to you (b4 and afterwards) with the remaining folks there. Not in an angry, judgmental way, theres no need for that, they're adults. Just be honest, they can draw conclusions. Eventually, all the great employees will leave to get 3X the pay like you did, or go someplace where they are treated better, and these lameo's will get whats left....and they will eventually spiral into the pit of despair as their competitors, now fortified with excellent employees: compete against the remaining retards, lameo's and sycophants and eats their lunch every day. Now: Live long and prosper.

Got to agree with Feck. Darasius, whoever you are - we all know that you have hair on your ass and your chest cause you're a make believe internet person. PC was smart not to take the bait after you almost trolled her in. Ha ha: good times. This is what happens when you drink too much and your buddy brands your butt with a red hot poker. From here: Lowering the quality of the posts

OK, but to clarify you 2 ladies posting pics of your bums: skin here, not some fluff pic of Levis. I believe that the ball is in Pink Chalks corner now....

2005 Honda Cr-v @22-24 in town (check it almost every fillup) @26-27 or so on the road.

Pipeline. Are those hexes hanging there? who is that Mark? _________________________________________________________ FGW, look familiar...not Chimney de Chelly?

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so far, RUMR pretty much nailed it on the first post: TROLL However, we rarely see such puerility's and skill, this is good, ohhhh - real good. Best post so far is Josephs!

And now anti-black as well? Tsk tsk...Wait until this hits the mainstream media...