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To those who want the gov't to control weapons. I'd ask you to look around at the people you know...your neighbors and climbing partners...the question is: do YOU trust them more than you trust the President? If the answer is yes, then consider how you feel about them having weapons and control vs just the current "great leader" or the next "great leader". Bottom line for me: A) Political power can and does come from weapons (look around the globe for examples). B) I trust my fellow citizens (that's pretty much all you, even the assholes on this site) more than I trust the power hungry people who often run for office. I want all of you to have weapons to provide a check and a balance on those other assholes. Simple choice for me. ___________________________________________________________

My old climbing partner missed getting in my group and is interested in joining a Meadows 4 x 4 pass group.... anyone need a person? Very reliable.

Sounds to me like you need to do this Mark. Stop at the German white wine section and buy any bottle of Reisling that says "Auslese" (special picking) or "Spatelese" (late harvest). Could be any brand, but it will be marked with that on it. Chill it and drink it. Brown bottles are Rhein (if you see Rheingau or Rheinhessian on the label that's the better Rheinish areas and generally better than the green which are Mosel areas. Could go much deeper into this, but that will get you started. PS, on the German white wines, try to buy one that is laying on it's side and has little dust on it. Standing upright for any length of time isn't a good thing.

You should go do it Kev.

don't click the link on Crackers post! don't click the link ! don't click that link ! Glad she's doing so well. Lots of stainless and stiches. Sick pic if ya click the link. Glad you got some rays in before the long winter rain comes. Is that Lions Jaw...Kunza Corner...?

Ditto, nice call Jim. Additionally, although Repubs are "suppose" to be fiscally conservative, there has been little evidence of any of that in the last 3 repub admins. Even McCain doesn't make much of a pretense of making it a big issue. Clinton showed it however, and got the budget back in balance. Also, WTF is up with about every damn repub trying to get into our personal lives all the time? How about they balance the budget and get off our ass's and out of our personal lives?

Of course....Cough * cough* well...it didn't work for Al Gore, so no...hmmm, wait: I guess that it did work for Geo W Bush however, so yes, I guess I have to agree with you after all as you are correct once again Komrade Prole! :-)

Don't know how I missed this until now....sweet!

IMO, this is the root of power in keeping the other amendments and rights on the table for you. ___________________________________________________________ ps, voted Libertarian, Bob Barr. And Trash I didn't vote for Carter or Reagan either, picked a 3rd party. I don't recall who it's been that long. Turned out that as I was driving to the polls after work, all 3 major networks called it over for Carter and gave it to Reagan.

Love the pics! (Got more Zod pics underworld?) Hey- Except for Ivan's massive weight, please tell me there was there a solid upwards piece?!

Now now, be careful, you know what often happens right after a person is caught saying something like that....

Assclown? Grow the F-UP? Speaking only for myself, your continual and unwarranted personal attacks are old, tired, unnecessary and angering. You should really consider how you talk to people. I'm looking forward to having a face to face discussion with you about this. I don't recall treating you with such disrespect and I don't appreciate it in return.

I believe that may be your best post ever, but you may change your mind when you read this: Link ps, my son is home from college this weekend so I'm staying home to visit but wind up on CC.com. Who knew kids can sleeps so late in the day?

I'd like to pitch this to all you many Obama ass kissers on this site. Kevbones poll is running @77% for Obama, 23% McCain. (It doesn't reflect those like me who don't want either.) I can't vote for the man. No way. I feel that one of my biggest points of opposition to him hasn't been covered except minimally in the media, this is something I want you fanatic Obama lovers to consider. If you were to hire a person to be President. You would look at the job criteria and then look for a person who had done jobs with the kinds of skills you were looking for. A person with a successful history and track record of actually doing that kind of work. When Jimmy Carter was against Ronald Reagan, both of those fellows had long track records of running states as governors. Furthermore, Carter had deep and extensive comparable experince that transferred over well. He had been a commander on a nuclear sub under Chester Nimitz (known as the man who modernized the Navy and who had impeccable organizational skills), AND Carter ran a relatively large family farm that reflected skills that bordered on being the CEO of a big business. Both men had ACTUAL experience doing a smaller version of the job they were "interviewing" for. Obama doesn't have anything close to this. AT ALL! I suspect that many of you are like me. You don't like McCain, and see Obama as a better choice. This may be true, but is a terrible reason to hire a person. When McCain was 5 points up, I offered to bet that Obama would win the election. I found some folks who liked the odds and bet on McCain. I'll do well $ that way if Obama gets elected. However, I have a very very deep suspicion that we, that's you and me my countrymen, are so fucked once he gets in. We can all "HOPE" that the CHANGE he talks incessantly of offering will be positive, but it is like "believing" in the tooth ferry and Santa Claus. It's a "belief" you can have, which has no basis in truth and reality. Think of this, George Bush had significantly BETTER credentials AND a strong track record of being able to collaboratively move a state forward, of being able to hire strong and intelligent people to key posts and taking advice from experts coming in as president: key skills which Barak glaringly lacks ever exhibiting. That's right, I'm saying it here, Bush's track record was SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER coming in! Where did that get us? Bushes approval rating is 14% now. What this lack of ever doing any of this kind of work may very well mean is that Barak just sucks at it, and cannot do it, which is why he never has done it and has no track record of ever even trying this kind of thing. Being a community organizer and a senator for 2 years doesn't qualify him, even after 8 years a s a state senator. John Kerrys MANY years AND being the head-cheese on a Swift Boat did. You (the 77% on this site who love Barak so) just don't know this yet, but appear to want to find out by trial and error on the job training in what may be a Dante Inferno version of bad choice good faith guessing. Someone I'd relayed this too explained their support of Obama this way: "Obama is like and internet stock, you might be on the ride of your life to the moon, or you might crash and burn hard". God I hope I'm wrong about this, but cannot shake the feeling or ditch the thought that it's about to turn real bad, real soon. We are so fucked. Read it and weep my brothers.

Really? I just went on Obama's website and looked up his stance on gun control. It says he believes that the 2nd amendment provides private citizens with a right to bear arms. "He will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns." Link This is a recent change to his thinking, back when McCain was up 5 points. Obama came out in support of the Supreme court decision to support the right to own handguns VS Washington DC on a case involving right to carry in DC. The previous 12 votes he voted to restrict, which reinforced his public stance as well. This may be why the NRA gives him and F and not an F- on this instance. BTW, I agree with Scott. I feel that having the public bear arms gives teeth to all the other "rights" like the "right" to a free press etc etc. Of course in keeping with the tenor of this site, let me preemptively say, like everyone else does, that anyone who doesn't agree with my view is a dumb, stupid motherfucker with the brains of a pissant and no intelligence at all and can go fuck off in advance of them saying so.... have a nice day. Truthfully, I do not like either of them, and will write in Ron Paul as a protest vote.

Hah ha! Probably could have avoided that had he just turned the hearing aid up:-)

Screw them: that's a well reasoned and thought out post right there.

Bev Johnson...Dihedral Wall. That woman had stones.

Ditto, and what a nice surprise to get a happy finish. As of yesterday, I'd have placed a bet on the other choice. Live long and prosper all.

You didn't read my post did you?

Thank you for telling us how to feel. I'll pass on the outrage you suggest for this one however. Having sex with underage boys or girls would outrage me, especially if they worked under you, but this woman was 50. In fact I think I may pity the guy. At least Clinton had the younger (but legal) women lined up. I couldn't get worked up for that either. Not Monical Lewinski, not Jenifer Flowers, not Paula Jones, not the chicks he was doing in the back seat of the Arkansa governors limo....OK< wait, that one pissed me off, cause he wanted a state trooper to lie about it. That was bullshit. The rest were not worthy of anger or even a tepid response from me, however, I can understand and sympathize with Hillary throwing the plates at him over it.

What happened to Paul Ron as a choice? I don't like either of the 2 you have mentioned.

get to work you slacker.

Former head of the UN.

yes. Which principles? Breaking into the watergate building? Recommending people shoot federal officers in the head and/or groin (to get around their bullet-proof vests)? haha, where's the repudiation, John?? Huh?