billcoe

5/12/08 Don't be so sure. I saw McCain doddering around on TV last night acting all old and decrepit like. Furthermore, recently McCain has pitched like a pandering political tool and fool with his nonsensical jackassed gas tax vacation idea, while Obama - on the same issue and despite being attacked on it, has acted intelligently, responsibly and like a true leader... ..presidential if you will. Regardless, I think that the physical differences between Obama and McCain will be striking when they are debating. So regardless of who Obama picks, and it appears to be anyone but Hillary, anyone voting for McCain will most likely be looking very closely at his VP pic as the next possible highly probable President. Ok the election is over, some of you can't believe it, but Obama is now President Obama: like some of us have been saying all along (God help us). Get on board and lets all of us work towards getting the country back on track. Stay involved and write your congressmen and senators so that these important issues can have current feedback for them. Palin heading to mediocrity as well. I keep hearing that Palin is going to be the next GOP nominee. No Palin in 4 years I'm saying right now. My money can be there if anyone is in a betting mood, speak up now if you are so inclined. I'm sure all of us are wishing McCain well in his well deserved retirement. Palin has 2 more years of national political theater as the Gov. of Alaska, so she'll be posturing. Bets?

I had the dude over 5 months ago. The guy betting against me kept saying that McCain was up 5 points. That was then though, want to see my cash?! On occasion it's nice to be right. Called Hillary the loser a long time before it was apparent too. BTW, this was money I just got back after handing it over 4 years ago cause I bet against Bush...couldn't believe Bush could pull it out and win...proving that nobody is a know it all.

ABsofigganloutly.!! No question. Walk softly and carry a big stick.

You must even take that first easy single step out of your door even if you expect to climb Mt Everest.

You dudes are real fucked up if you think our system, with it's emphasis on individual rights and protections, are even in the ball park with China: where the rights of the many outweigh the rights of the few. Totally fucked up. The examples you pussies mention don't even compare. Get out of your house and your country more, see what the rest of the world is seeing.

Not a chance in hell...although did you see what just happened in West Virgina, one of the key states? ___________________________________________________________________ Wining this bet was more bitter sweet, that is, collecting my $100 bet from 5 months ago that Obama would be the next pres, more bittersweet than collecting the $200 that Hillary would lose. Cest la vie, it's all cash eh! I noticed that none of you whiny bitchesfolks wanted to bet either way.

Some good points as always Jb. Hope your home and your frying pan is soon filled with fresh trout. I drink to your health, and the future of our country and countrymen tonight! PS, I got invited to an election party! They'll have food and everything! Regards: Bill

Damn, that's way out there. I remember Western Colo. fondly. So many animals of all sorts. Had relatives live on the uncompagre plateau, Durango, Montrose...Good times.

Well, art is subjective. It's a much closer likeness than the Eliza R. Barchus version painted @100 years ago. I like the bold stokes and interpretation of yours, but I like the Barchus version as well. I bid on the Barchus anyway, I think it went for @ $1800 the first time and $3750 2 years later. The description was: ""Beacon Rock at Sunset" with figures in canoe in foreground. 22 in. by 36in. signed Barchus l.r. In wood frame. Together with a first edition book, (so stated) "Eliza R. Barchus, the Oregon Artist", by her daughter, Agnes Barchus, 1974, Binford & Mort, Portland, with dust jacket." Barchus has stuff hanging in the White House though. Yours pic- despite being more if an impressionistic style, looks more like the rock to me than the Barchus, and he did this back before there were many white people around to blow the rock up, cut the trees down, etc etc. Wish Barchus had just painted what he saw.

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What part Mel? I use to live in Paonia for a couple of years after my father died.

You sure that you don't diss everyone? BTW, been with my spouse for almost 29 years. There is a place and time for everything. A time to climb.... ...a time to shoot. ..a time to sit on our asses and reflect on both... ..to everything, turn, turn, turn, There is a season, turn, turn turn. And a time, to every purpose, Under Heaven.

yeah yeah yeah, diss all over the guys with the guns till the zombies come crawling towards ya:-) Now who's got shrinkage!

Signs of a sick society click here:-)

Been a year ago today.

Name 3 and provide links. What innocent people have we tied up and beat for 2 months, then arrested when they went public with the story?

Link To the whinny people around here who continually bitch about our country all the time. Here's how much of the rest of the real world sadly is. This gentleman only told the truth of how he was (mis)treated at the hands of the police. Bye-bye Jigme. "Jane Macartney in Beijing A Tibetan monk who is one of a very few to speak openly of his mistreatment by Chinese police after demonstrations against Beijing in March was arrested today when he emerged from two months in hiding. More than 70 police, including members of the paramilitary People’s Armed Police, raided the dormitory of the Labrang monastery in western China that was Jigme’s home, sources told The Times. Police vehicles, their sirens wailing, drew up outside the monastery just after midday. Armed officers poured out and entered Jigme’s cell near the front of the ancient edifice that sprawls up a hillside in Gansu province. A source said: “We don’t believe they gave any reason for his arrest. They came at lunchtime when most of the monks were in their rooms and there were fewer people around.” Related Links * China relaxes decades-old restrictions on media * Dalai Lama has gallstones removed * Famous Tibetan blogger held by police Jigme, who only uses one name, had been in hiding, moving from safe house to safe house on the vast Tibetan plateau, ever since he made a video in late August - later posted on Youtube - in which he described two months of interrogation and abuse by police. Friends told The Times that he decided to return to his monastery after police, who had visited his family, said he would be safe from arrest if he returned to his monastery. With the onset of winter, he decided to believe the authorities. He is one of the few Tibetans to speak openly of his experiences at the hands of the security forces since 22 people were killed in violent anti-Chinese demonstrations in the Tibetan capital, Lhasa, in early March. The demonstration quickly spread to other Tibetan regions of China. In his video, in which he shows his face, Jigme described how he had been dragged off the street while waiting for his shoes to be mended by four uniformed guards who pulled him into a white van. He was driven to a guest-house run by local paramilitary police and held even though he insists he took no part in the anti-Chinese unrest that swept Tibetan regions of China in March. He was taken to a prison in a town near the monastery. He told the Associated Press: “They demanded to know if I was a leader of the protest and what contact I had with the Dalai Lama. They hung me up by my hands and beat my hard all over with their fists.” He said similar treatment was meted out to other Tibetan prisoners, and family members were refused permission to bring them additional food and warm clothing. He was twice taken to hospital. The second time, after lying unconscious for six days, he was handed over to his family who took him to another hospital where he recovered after 20 days of treatment and a rest. He returned in May to the monastery where he his a member of the Gyuto Dratsang, or Upper Tantric College, one of its six institutes of learning. He told one interviewer: “I’m not afraid of being taken in. I have no regrets. I am not guilty of anything."

Not a chance in hell...although did you see what just happened in West Virgina, one of the key states?

yeah, that just sucks.

I too have nothing to add. "Call it The Bonfire of the Vanities. The British appear to dislike Palin so much that America’s hockey mom-in-chief is to be burned in a 20-foot-high effigy tonight atop a bonfire on the site of the Battle of Hastings, the event that saw England’s King Harold shot dead with an arrow in the eye. The facsimile Palin, who has become an instant and recognizable figure of fun around the world, is dressed as Rambo brandishing an enormous machine gun and bedecked with bullets, all the better for shooting Alaskan wolves with, above a banner reading, “Too Hot to Handle.” Obama does not escape the attention of satirical fire raisers. He sits forlorn at Palin’s side, in a tin helmet only held up by his outsize ears."

Prole, this only re-enforces how pointless spraying on the internet is. There is no reason to for me to feel shame. None. I remember arguing your point back when I was 16 to my neighbor, Al Purdy, a WW2 vet, he wasn't able to change my opinion then, only time and knowledge did. You won't change my mind on this and I won't yours....for now. Just rest assured that you truly are wrong and lets leave it at that. Please bring it up if you ever see me FTF and lets have the full discussion. Later!

Glad someone said it Doug. It seems to me that today's little pissing match in Iraq may be tomorrows death struggle on the other side of the world with a large bear or worse. The dudes in Iraq will be the same ones moved over there, against the bear or Asian Hordes, saving your ass, and your loved ones asses, and your way of life so that you can flap your lips with out recourse any way you want here on this site Prole. If you want to dispatch rancor on this war, I can see it and understand it, however, today isn't tomorrow, and kicking those in the crotch who may need to be standing between you and some future unimaginable personal horror seems silly, wrong and counterproductive to me. Think it over. Take care all

"We Have Nothing to Fear Except Fear Itself!" (Until the Taliban takes over Pakiscracistan and drops a nuk on us, then we shall have other fears:-( )

YOU TALKIN ABOUT BIDEN TAKIN ABOUT NUCLEAR WAR WITHIN 6 MONTHS OF OBAMA BEING ELECTED?

First up fer ish, the rest of some Screwtop red called Evil (upsidedown label). Got to polish it off to line up the stuff rmcrter (Mel) left on my porch last night for the loan of a short rope! SOBO!??????? Whats on tap up there now?