JoshK

I'm going to go back and not rope burn my entire hand some time...god that sucked. For something 45 minutes from Seattle it really is pretty neat.

Lowell, that is a great quote. That is exactly how I feel. I think I moved myself too far to the "do everything one way" side and didn't allow myself to realize there are plenty of ways to accomplish the same goal. The quote also highlites a great quality of the cascades...so many types of climbing, often in one single climb. Can anything beat great rock with some sections of alpine ice, accessed via a great glacier approach and some good old steep schwacking??

Berries are the best. The abundent blueberries were the only thing that kept me sane during the day of hellish thirst on Index and the hungry walk out. It is actually pretty surprising how much moisture those things contain if you eat them in a large enough quantity.

Cool. That sounds much more pleasent than dropping down, ascending snow, and skipping part of the ridge. I never thought that sounded very "pure".

It's not the age thing, I am certainly not near the age of "physiological" slow down. But most of the reasons people have listed are the tradeoffs I think of too. One nice thing is that an overnight for me generally requires only the addition of a 1 pound sleeping bag and an 8 oz stove kit if I feel like it. Throw in 8oz worth of overnight random essentials and it is an extra 2 pounds or so, which is a tiny difference. But I definitely agree, there are times when I want to go car-to-car (or need to) but I guess I just consider that second option of not going day-to-day more now. Overnight or not, one thing is for sure - light and fast is the only way to go. I can't believe the heavy crap I carried early on.

So I made a realization about my climbing this summer. When I first got into cimbing I started the "traditional" way, meaning taking an extra day or so for the approach and deproach and leaving an entire (or most of a) day for the climb itself. Then I figured out how to go fast and light and started doing everything in a physco day that I could. In the last year I have transistioned back to doing things in more than a day. Why? I guess I'm not sure. Obviously it is a bit easier on the body, but I suppose I started to buy into the whole "enjoy the scenery" notion and all that. In reality, I have found that if I can afford the extra time, what in the hell is the point of trying to whip something long out in a day? To chestbeat? To purposely make it more difficult? Has anybody else thought about this and what makes them do stuff in one day versus more than one day? What reasons make you choose one or the other? Maybe I'll go back to doing stuff almost exclusive in a day when I can, but for now I think I am happier doing thins fast but not ridiculously fast. It also generally removes the nescessity to leave at a physco early hour since you have some extra time. Another added bonus I can often get in a bonus summit if I have that extra approach/deproach day. What do others think?

Hey Jason, i didn't see an answer to Juan's question...did you guys do the ridge from the toe? If so, did it add anything more difficult than the upper ridge's 5.0? thanks, -josh

Air traffic these days is about CHEAP, and secondarly (very secondarily) speed, comfort, etc...this is why the 787 is going to wipe the floor with the "look at the big toy we built" piece of bloated airbus crap. Similarly, supersonic just plain costs too much. As the concord proved, the market of people that need to fly thousands of miles very quickly and are willing to pay an assload for it is too small.

It was in jest, PP.

Well, if Rumsfeld says it, it must be true. After all, he is a true champion of justice and peace. Also, PP, i found this on the garbage link you posted: "No material from the Power and Interest News Report may be republished in any form without written permission." You may want to secure permission before the champions of the free market come after you.

When I was reading Ross' TR for Bear I opened up the topo map to remind myself of the area. I noticed "nodoubt peak". Anybody climbed this likely obscure mountain? -josh

What would cc be without Harry Pi? And how about that russian avatar with thename from sienfeld, what was his name again? that was great!

Man, Index sure changed your perspective on the value of water, eh eric? ME TOO!

Awesome again!! Really good work guys.

Notice the smilies. I'm not only content but was chuckling as I wrote that. It is fun talking shit to ignorant right wingers angry at the world for not getting laid!

Smoked sardines and trout? EEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!! Nice climb guys. I've often thought about doing it, and yes, like you said, I figured it would be hard and sustained. Sounds worthwhile anyway...

Most people are mocking and heaping scorn on you. Could you please help us out and give us some right wing views on how "these people" got pregnant, why they suck, how the democrats are the cause for all of this and explanations of why preaching religious abstainence dogma will be the solution? C'mon, PP, i know you can find something to post from one of your right wing blogs! C'mon! Ctrl+C then Ctrl+V! You can do it!!

do you think you would ever repeat the route?

Yah there are. There is some page out there about the study of Griz in the north cascades. Apparently they get a verified report every several years, so it is seriously rare, but they are out there.

Sweet! Sounds awesome. Hopefully I will be able to do it tomorrow morning. 20 minutes? Does that include the trail? Amazing! -josh

Please wear down. There is no reason people shouldn't be wearing a layer of down at all times. I think people should wear down when bouldering. It could make ground falls less painful.

HAHAH! Awesome! If you want a *real* treat, try the Ulrich's coulior descent. We hoped to go down the Cascadian and also used the NR for our approach. Unfortnately in the fading light (we weren't particularly fast) we went down the wrong coulior...

THIS KIDS DAD SHOULD BE FUCKING ASHAMED OF HIMSELF. It is beyond selfish to risk ruining climbing for thousands of people over his grief/anger about his son's death in a sport that he introduced him to. I wish there was a way to get a hold of him. I would offer my condolences then tell him what a piece of shit he is acting like. I can imagine his son is rolling in his grave thinking of the legacy his father is now leaving on his name. Jackass. BULLSHIT. They can to *some* extent. If they reall could I-70 and US6 wouldn't have both been buried by giant rockslides in the past few months causing massive traffic problems west of Denver.

truly an adventure! that 1st photo is gorgeous!

Anybody here climbed the classic east face scramble/beginner route on the third flatiron? Supposedly it is a great easy 5th climb. From the beta I could drag up it seems like a pretty reasonable solo, but any comments from those who have done it would be appreciated. thanks, -josh