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When do you plan on going? When I get home from work, I could probably find a picture I took about 2 weeks ago that could show the cornice. In my opinion it looked like you could get past it, but you would have to work for it. It appeared overhanging enough that you couldn't climb over it due to it being made of fairly soft snow. It looked like your best bed would be to attempt to climb the rock on either side of it or get yourself a good belay and started tunneling through it Of course, this was what I was guessing from a mile or two away, so it may be completely different than what I thought. I think if you are determined to do that route and you get all the way to the cornice, you'll find a way through it.

Can I add another recommendation? The new superlight stove from coleman, the F1Ultralight, I believe it's called. Lighter than all the ones mentioned (by a few grams at least), pretty stable and folds down well. I got it for a replacement when my old canister stove busted and I've found it pretty cool so far. In all honesty, i bet all of these ~3oz ultra light canister stoves do about the same job.

You guys are all confused. Do it euro-style and paraglide off the top. You'll be back at your car in 15 minutes.

Thanks Mark, appreciate the comments. Yes, I have been looking at the east face of goode for a while. (ok, I lie, I've been looking since I saw it from liberty bell the other day ) It looks like some great climbing to be had. One small correction, the information for both goode and dome is in the green book. At least it's that way in the versions I have. -josh

Steve, yes, the approach is the same up until the point where you begin actually climbing up the ice cliff glacier itself. I did the approach yesterday, albeit up the wrong branch of the mountaineer creek, and snowshoes were not nescessary. Some moderate postholing was to be had lower down in the forest (I bet last night's hard freeze solved this), but above about 4000 feet the snow was hard as a rock. Awesome walking conditions.

If you go for it...go fast. The bottom half is threatened constantly by the ice cliff itself, and the top half is threatened constantly by a huge cornice this time of year. I also thing shit can sluff off from the walls forming the north ridge. I was up there and interested in doing the route a few weeks ago, but came to the conclusion I would enjoy it more a bit later in the season when it was more ice than snow and also a bit less threatened by that cornice. Whatever you decide, be careful and have fun.

The one very nice thing about cameras which take compact flash (none of the really small ones do) is that storage is dirt cheap. 512mb for less than $100. I can store ~260 5megapixel, low compression JPEGs.

Allison has a valid point. Just as much to the point is the fact that marmot's "900" bags are awesome bags with great quality shells and down fill. Are they any better than readily available 800 fill down bags simply because of the "900" fill down? No, I sincerely doubt it. But that doesn't change the fact that last year's versions of the same bags (marketed as 800 fill) kicked ass also.

see ya in a bit...

You're right, Bill, I guess I shouldn't bash it outright. I do know others who have had good successes. I believe, however, it's only one way to get the job done and for longterm health, concentrating your diet entirely on fat/protein is not the best idea. I'm curious, now that they have lost the weight have they returned to a more well rounded yet lower calorie diet?

It's not as good as Bob in the dark room watching britney spears. That was some funny shit. Im actually fairly surprised he agreed to do that.

veggi, you and I both know that liberals are all premature ejaculators. But is this better or worse than the republicans who can't get it up in the first place? (cough) Bob Dole (cough)

Have fun guys. Best of luck.

Alas, I am not catturdeat...

I didn't call out anything. You think I'd ask for a thread to be locked without trying to get in the last word?

Have you ever stopped to think for 30 seconds that different tools feel better/worse for different people? I'd trust the opinion of somebody who actually climbs with these tools over somebody who just sprays about them. I wouldn't trust anyone who actually climbs with Rages because they are so suck, it shows their judgement must be seriously off about everything.

Haha...just the kind of response I'd expect you to make. Rather than address the poionts she makes, which are correct and valid, you just make fun of her name.

Have you ever stopped to think for 30 seconds that different tools feel better/worse for different people? I'd trust the opinion of somebody who actually climbs with these tools over somebody who just sprays about them.

Right on, Dane Is that your porsche? SIR?

If I pump fast enough and go deep enough? Huh? What you say?

I do have to admit, tho, as much as I thought the ascents were crap at first, that the heel lifter bar is pretty nice for long moderate uphill climbs.

Yah, I fucking left my GPS thingy on the top of the car when I drove away from the end of the mine road near darrington the other day. It's where you park for the whitehorse snow gulch slog. If anybody finds it (yeah right), please lemme know. I'd be very happy and will supply beer, etc.

Hot Dog...great stupid 80s moving about skiing. REmmeber those idiotic ski ballets they would perforM?

I want a pair of the dynafit mountain lites soooo bad. Basically just a plastic mountaineering boot with dynafit attachments.