JoshK

FYI, since the majority of us are still confused, Martlet is not a young energetic youth but rather a 40 year old dude with nothing better to do. I'm done with engaging in any of this crap, but figured I'd at least let everybody know who they are actually arguing with.

The one thing I haven't seen anybody ask is why the hell anybody should believe figures from the Iraqi news agency in the first place????

That Kerry picture will never be as classic as th one with georigie boy reading from the 3rd grader book upside down!

Seriously, athletic tape for a 3x markup, leather gardening gloves for a 6x markup and electrical tape for a 13x markup. Metolius sucks. I wish I hadn't bought a bunch of their nuts before I knew any better.

Whatever you do, dont' post those pics of your foot again man! Man I cringed when I saw those. Felt for ya tho...

biatch... Yeah, dood, haven't you seen that movie that's coming out?? Get ready to use your glacier skills to traverse the streets of NYC!

Hey man, you should probably let people know what type of climbing you are interested in doing...rock, glaciers, alpine, sport, etc...

Which one is the fanatic country? I'm confused. They both deserve each other. Nuke each other and create a big ass parking lot for the camels. No more Zionist colonialism, no more Ayatolla Insaney...sounds like a good start. Will, I really hope you're kidding with this. Grouping all of these people into a single group of fucking crazies is a bad way to go. Granted, they have a higher concentration of fucked up people than any other place in the world (well, aside from the hardcore christian right. ), but they aren't all like that. I'm just going to assume you were joking and not a racist and anti-semite.

I've noticed the same thing about the extremes and their distain for Israel. This may be an oversimplification, but the very extreme right is generally very racist (which would include anti-semetic) and the very far left is so fucking passive that they can't even understand that the state of israel needs to strike back at these fucks to protect their very existance. This is why I can't side with realists or idealists. The idealists are too unrealistic, you are never going to perfect everybody. There will always be evil. The realists are a bit too pesimistic; in general society has been improving and not everybody needs to be reigned in with power. On the other hand, there are people and states that need to be severely bitchslapped occasionally for the benifit of us all.

How does one get into this elusive chat?

I've heard stories that sections of the north end of lake washington actually frozen for signifant amounts of time during the winters as late as the 1950s. Anybody know if that's true? Also, those giant chunks of snow at the bottom of snow gulch used to be much bigger and form a pseudo-glacier-like-ice-chunk-thingy at the bottom. I guess something similar to the big four ice caves.

The only problem with the ignore thing is you can still see their posts quoted by others. The board software has no ability to determine where quoted text comes from...

And you as well! I knew it would happen someday! I am definitely liberal, but I'm not enough of a peacenik retard to think that the gulf states will all of a sudden become reasonable and non-threatening if we simply play nice with them. Also, to add an interesting note to this thread; a point that almost nobody knows, or at least it seems this way: The Palestinians were never thrown out of their land. In fact, they weren't even pressured to leave. The majority of the palestinian settlements surrounding Israel came to life when they left in mass droves in protest of Israel being recognized as a state in 1948.

The road is gated at MP21 in any event. road end is 23.5 and boston basin trail is at 22.5.

Later man, I'm off to do something better with my time. Have fun arguing with the rest of the guys on here.

Nope, I'm done yelling at a brick wall. Feel free to reply and say something about how I concede the point to you and I was wrong and all that. I'm going to go do something better with my time now...

Ugh, you really don't read. I repeat again: there are plenty of ways to show factual numbers to prove one point or another. You can use the same numbers to prove completely opposite points. I forget the damn expression about statistics: something like there are lies, damn lies, and statistics. and get a new insult moron. answer my fucking question...do you even climb?

Ahhh, that makes you an expert. You should go back and read your textbooks again,then, because your ass is showing. I'm hardly an expert, but I obviously know more than you.

Re-read my post you moron. I addressed your very reply. I SAID I KNOW HE WAS IN A WAR ZONE. A WAR ZONE OF OUR OWN CREATION AND INABILITY TO DO WHAT WE SAID WE WOULD: BRING STABILITY. You don't know what the hell you are talking about, give it up. As AlpineK pointed out there is a reason none of the conservatives on here are backing up. I argue all the time with fairweather, GregW et al, and while we may be on totally opposites of the political spectrum, at least I am arguing with intelligent people who actually have a clue on world matters. Also, if you dont think "statistics" can be played to your advantage, go back to civics class. The state department is headed by a bush appointee and is there to conduct foreign affairs as the president sees fit. In other words, it's a political and partisan driven machine. I'll leave it to your brilliance to go figure out a million and one ways you can make various numbers show whatever you want.

Of course it is...nothing is sacred on the web. I feel so bad for his parents, having a video of your son's beheading made public. What a terrible way to go. And the dude was young, only 26 or something.

God you're an idiot. You're the moron that didn't even know what the geneva convention was yet you are aruging about the rights and wrongs of prisoner abuse. Dont give me shit about being young cause they taught me about the geneva convention in my history class. Just answer my question: do you actually climb or have anything worthwhile to post here, or are you just here to spray about george 2 bush and his criminal compatriots?

Yeah, what Klenke said. It has a warning before you play the "video" and it's a still shot as far as I could tell also. I wouldn't post something that actually showed a beheading without warning, so I must be missing something, or did you click on another link?

Jon / Timmy, why can't we just ban him? Its obvious he is either somebody's avatar or just a dick trying to get attention since his pimply ass can't get laid to save his life. He obviously supports the kind of "democratic" leaders who illegal detain people without charges or access to counsel. I think the irony of simply tossing his ass would be poetic.

!! Yeah, I was laughing too! Isn't that good news! Can you honestly say you feel safer now as an American both domestically AND traveling abroad then you did 10 years ago? Fuck no. You are one ignorant son of a bitch. Why dont you go take a look at that article I just posted about poor Nick Berg. I'm sure if he was here he'd spit on you and the state department's distortion of statistics. And don't give me shit about how he was in a war zone. We created that war zone and we sent our citizens to fight there. Both he and the other private citizens there can't do their jobs safely since our mission to "liberate" Iraq has simply inflamed the whole region and cause their citizens to hate us even more.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4953015/ I can't even imagine...what horrendous people. People like the resevists torturing prisoners and these sick fucks need to be sent to a special place where they can enjoy each others company.