JoshK

Yeah, I came to the conclusion on this trip that sideslipping that entire sherpa glacier coulior on skis is still better than downclimbing the thing.

The idea that Israel is a threat to the Arab Leauge is idiotic. Israel has never done anything besides defend it's borders and attack installations directly affecting it's national security. The only land they have ever occupied was won during wars started by the arab states. A good portion of that has also been given back in exchange for peace. Let us remember that one of the main reasons Iraq never got nuclear weapons was that Israel destroyed their nuclear weapons program in the 1980s. I would absolutely support them doing this to Iran's facilities. When you have significant arab leaders spouting out this agressive talk about "leaving nothing on the ground" in Israel then I believe they have no choice, imminent threat or not. Knowledge gained with a nuclear weapons program is knowledge that remains in that state even if facility destruction sets them back. The arab states of the middle east have already proven their resolve to attack israel without provocation several times before. In their current state they can't be trusted in any way, and allowing them to continue to develop nuclear weapons would be criminal negligence.

Dude, if you haven't noticed, everybody gave up arguing with you. It's obvious you don't have a clue what you are talking about. It must be easy forming your political beliefs on what your parents tell you, huh? Also, do you even climb, or are you just here to be a dipshit? For someone that doesn't know what I'm talking about, I didn't have much trouble proving you wrong, did I? Damn, that must be embarrassing. What have you proven wrong, again? The only thing I have seen you do is call people "moonbats" whatever the fuck that means and repeat to yourself over and over that rumsfeld did nothing wrong. If you would pull your head out of your ass you'd notice that your beloved fucking president reprimanded him!!!

Dude, if you haven't noticed, everybody gave up arguing with you. It's obvious you don't have a clue what you are talking about. It must be easy forming your political beliefs on what your parents tell you, huh? Also, do you even climb, or are you just here to be a dipshit?

Wow, must be from avy accumulation. The last two years I have been up there and there is nothing for the first 1000 feet, and that was in april. My parents told me that once upon a time the winters were cold, so maybe that was the deal... Here is a picture of the bottom of snow gulch. I have circled in red the general area to look. When we were there it was marked with some orange flagging. It isn't the easiest thing to find, and to call it a trail would be stretch, but it is a rough path through the brush that involves very little true bushwhacking.

Yeah, I'll look for a pic. MattP, when was that picture you posted taken? The snow cover is all the way down to the bottom, that's awesome! No wonder it was outstanding!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4944094/ Here is a summary of an International Red Cross report on Iraqi prison abuse. I suppose the question is you belief bush & rumsfeld or the international red cross. If you believe the former, I guess you just can't be helped...

Not surprisingly she looks really good in the professional photos and fairly run-of-the-mill in the snapshots. So, does she actually climb, or is she just a seven summits slogger? In the professional photos she is hold some technical tools and looks precisely like she doesn't know how to hold them Damn, this shit is too funny.

It was still a coverup. Despite that they quietly mentioned that they were investigating, nothing ever came of it and they shuffled the final findings underneath the rug. If you don't think it's a coverup, our asshole president would disagree with you! He's the one that didn't get notified and was rightfully pissed about it.

Yeah, check out the TR in the north cascades forum (accidentally posted it there). We climbed the ice cliff and skied the sherpa. awesome day!

I've asked this a bunch of times, but nobody replies...who the hell is annabelle?

Torturing or humilating prisoners is a violation of the geneva convention. As somebody aruging anything about a secretary of defense, you should know this.

Translated as: "I'm really too stupid to form my own opinion, so I'm just going to repeat what I read on NAMBLA What the fuck is NAMBLA? Yeah, it's my opinion that he is an asshole and a terrible descretary of defense. I formed that just fine, thanks. So you support Rumsfeld? Ha...fucking moron. So, what makes a good Secretary of Defense? Well, we could start with somebody that doesn't feed us lies and doesn't cover up violations of the geneva convention.

Translated as: "I'm really too stupid to form my own opinion, so I'm just going to repeat what I read on NAMBLA What the fuck is NAMBLA? Yeah, it's my opinion that he is an asshole and a terrible descretary of defense. I formed that just fine, thanks. So you support Rumsfeld? Ha...fucking moron.

Hey Lowell, interestingly enough I think our Donelley may be the pesron that has skied the most of the ice cliff glacier at this point.

And here are the skiing pictures:

Here are some pictures. Full size ones are in the gallery.

Like a good way to die, at the moment! Just to make double sure, you are talking about to the right of the girth pillar, on the slabby face that leads up to the north ridge, correct? It sill has quite a few patches of snow ready to slide off in the next warm weather...

CRAP CRAP...I meant to place this in the Alpine Lakes forum. Could a moderator pretty please move this for me??

Climb: Mt. Stuart-Ice Cliff Glacier, Sherpa Glacier Ski Date of Climb: 5/10/2004 Trip Report: Yesterday eric (paco), sky, jason and josh hummel and myself climbed the ice cliff glacier. Climbing in a group this large was a new experience for me as far as I can remember. It was a whole lot of fun! Credit goes to Eric for nailing the approach spot on. Not a single moment was wasted getting up to the basin beneath Stuart. The climb itself was great, with very good snow conditions for climbing. The ice cliff itself was a nice quick challenge with everybody sort of picking their own path through it. The bust through the cornice at the very top provided the only other technical challenge. Sky and Eric had already topped out when the rest of us got to the cornice and were kind enough to toss a rope down for us. Jason, Sky, Eric and myself went to the true summit and Josh (very intelligently) took what looked like a very comfortable nap in the sun at the notch where the ice cliff tops out. Eric downclimbed the sherpa glacier while the rest of us skied it. The middle section in the coulior sucked as it was quite icy, but a few sections of good turns were still had. Starting about 200 feet above the shrund the snow got awesome and perfect corn was ridden for 2500 feet or so back to the basin. It was well worth the weight of carrying skis up the ice cliff! Conclusions: *Having two guys with the same name (Josh, in this case) on a climb makes for the phrase "no, not you" being said a *LOT* *Climbing the blue glacier ice solo on the ice cliff with a lightweight ice axe, a whippet and aluminum crampons is NOT something I would recommended. This definitely provided the sketch crux of the trip for me. We also had a 6th guess. Donelley (sp?), who lives up at Hyak, joined us. He ended up turning around and skiing down just beneath the ice cliff, which I thought was a pretty damn good effort for a guy who had never climbed anything besides volcanos (I think that's what he said) and was climbing in true alpine ski boots! Gear Notes: 4 out 5 off us hauled skis up As for tools, we had a wide assortment of systems, ranging from the intelligently chosen 2 technical tools to the moronically chosen whipet, lightweight axe and alum. crampons combo. Approach Notes: Pretty easy, esp. if you take an Eric with you. Those of us hauling ski boots walked in sneakers until you leave the trail for the cross country route.

HAHHA. I'm not saying I am putting my weighty and influencial endorsement behind anybody...just expressing my opinion about the pile of shit that is our defense secretary.

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I still think the frame offers more than just load carrying capibilities. It allows you to just stuff crap in and out of the pack a lot without distoring the shape. My small pack is light, with a frame and nobody would ever accuse me of carrying too much. Also, the thing about skis is true...a suspension makes things way nicer for that.