RuMR

Those weren't flames. If you are going to make a comparison make sure there is some legitimacy to your claims. NOLSe, Mr. E and Layton have been around long enough to know relatively where their route stands...there are often indirect ways of comparing...they know people that have climbed there, they know how hard or not those people climbed AND they've climbed at other places that are considered both soft (squish) or standard/hard (index, joshuatree, yosemite, etc.) by the general climbing community... I'm not quite sure where you get off judging their statements of the difficulty of their route without having climbed their route... I can point to the simple fact that you yourself have said you climb harder in the alpine than at Smith and yet you trash talk smith and its ratings, so you are a bit incongruous yourself...i could argue that you don't even know the rating scale...i won't, but i could...

because its soooooo uninspiring!

shut up, bitch!

yeah...i'm all kinky-like...knots rule!!

Somebody call me??

who's doin' the seminar on knot tying???

for a total of less than 500 IQ!

maybe even a wsu cheerleader!!!

BITCH!

OMFG!! I'm dying...i just snorted coffee out of my nose...hahahaha oh that hurts...

sheeet...now its 7 pounds....quit it already...

dammit...i just gained 4lbs reading this stupid thread...fuck!

true dat...i climb much better outside than in... also, 5.12 climbing does not have "limit" type holds...I wanna know how to clamp down on small shit...

glue

gee...now there's a newsflash...

Its fine, but not what i'm looking for...kinda what i was explaining to tim...that deals with the tools you already have, not getting another tool...

"level is pretty low"... whatever, peter...

yer a freak...

that's not exactly a huge fall...large, but not huge... yeah, i agree going for it on a sport climb is one thing...and i've gone further than I thought I could go on a few things before... but this is not really what i'm asking about...What i'm asking about is what really "bumped" your level to the next one...arguably "going for it with all you've got" means exactly that...you are going with what you've got...i wanna get some "more", if you know what i mean...

that's not much fun either...plus, its kinda dangerous...I'm curious, have you gone into that zone???

that's no fun...

i'm the inverse of a dumbbell... All my weight is centered around my fat tired middle...and i have an iq of 290...

FWIW...i'm not really worried about endurance...I fall off of shiznet cuz i just can't hold on to the littlebitchpieceofshit hold...doesn't matter if i've gotten 100 feet of climbing to said littlebitchpieceofshit hold or 2 feet of climbing...goddddammmittt that pisses me off! I wanna squeeze that fokker until rock juice is squirting out of it... anyways...Sexychocobunny and arch, pm me your info!!!!

actually, i do agree with you about the martial arts and their benefits... that's why i'm sticking with wrestling as it bends you in all sorts of "not normal" directions and forces "out of plane" types of strengths...

yeah right, vitaly! stupid dork