RuMR

It is an ABS Bouldering Comp on Nov 19th at Rogue Rock Gym in Medford. Visit www.roguerockgym.com ] [/url] for more information and a registration form.

ahh buzz off ya goat fokker...

not doing a general recall on pieces that they KNOW are whacked is total BULLSHIT! This is assuming that this is true, of course...

WOW...remind me not to piss off the cats in da pound!

Sport climbing started a couple of years before gyms, but it is the product of gyms - climbers dependent on totally bolted lines - that are causing the access problems. You're the one pissing on the history of climbing, sport. One can only assume you consider it a sad history and not to be regarded with much credence or respect. There are a lot of us who lived and climbed through about three decades or more of that history that still do and don't care much for the impact of climbers that view "safe" climbing and a bolt every six feet as an entitlement qualifying for a new amendment to the Bill of Rights. No doubt... Heading out to do just that, thanks. I thought you were talking about my personal history, as opposed to climbing's...My bad... I've been climbing since before sport climbing started, so i'm well aware of the context we are speaking of... I still can't get over your beachnazi, my wave mentality...it really seems that all of your bitching comes down to the fact that there are just too many climbers (whether you call team REI climbers, or not, is another discussion) for your tastes... regarding my comment and your response about climbing anymore, i don't think you'll be climbing rings around me so to speak... have fun scratching your 'nads...they must be brass or sumpin

HAHAHA! I just spit my latte out of my nose onto 4 screens at work!

Well the problem is they keep wanting to build ski resorts in the backcountry and climbings the same. And my point exactly is climbing is only that way now after 20 years of support of bolts and gyms. "Recreational" "climbers'" bolts keep encroaching and some of us do not care to see every line in the US grid bolted to entertain bored suburbanites. Or are you one of those types that whine when someone encroaches on your particular playpen. You obviously don't mind which is fine, but you'll have to deal with a few of us remnants of your obviously sad past. And folks wonder how the Ignorant Blisses happen - is it utter cluelessness or are you just too distracted entertaining yourself to be bothered? ok...so explain how sport climbing in europe and smith started BEFORE gym climbing even existed????? oh, and obviously sad past? GO FUCK YOURSELF...you know nothing about me, tool... Ripping your fucked existence on this lame board is enough of entertainment for me...i don't even climb these days... So go fiddle w/ your ball nutz again, asswipe

schweet! BOOTAY!

you gonna be passin' out neutrino keepsakes, eh?

damn...i don't get any luvin'?

word on the street is that BovineWaRTS likes a stiff hand...

yah...secret splitter nirvana....

Nicely put, bug...

nothing at si was bolted on purpose like that...where the fuck did you hear that??????

I would simply have to disagree, I can't think of any aspect of climbing that has benefited from crowds and a large population of less skilled and self-responsible climbers. What I have seen is an endless requirement for the continous "development" of bolted routes to sustain the [commercial] output of gyms. This is a dollar and entertainment driven machine the net effect of which has steadily corrupted what climbing was all about. Sure the folks that rise to the top are capable of great things and do come around to looking for more "adventurous" endeavors because they get bored senseless. But the achievements of the top few of a very large pyramid isn't the issue, it's the ongoing impact of the very large base of [gym-supported] novice and intermediate climbers. Bolted on holds, route directions scratched and painted on the rock, inappropriate bolting. Now, you can paint all such incidents as abberations, but I call them unavoidable and direct affects of a larger population - more people, cluelessness, vandalism, and bad choices. It's more a matter of statistics than judgment. From a statistics perspective, the population base of climbers required to advance climbing from 5.10 to 5.12 was relatively small with a large percentage of that population able to climb at a high level with a relatively low toll on rock. The population base behind the push from 5.13 to 5.15 grew enormously with a very small percentage of that base able to climb at a high level. Again, it isn't about the impact of the small percentage of folks that climb at a high level today, it about the impact of the vast majority who need gyms and bolted routes to sustain their identities as climbers and toll it continues to take on rock. god, you sound like an egotistical prick...jeezus, lighten up... You know, some people like resort skiing, some like the backcountry...climbing's the same...deal with it, frickin' whiner...

Listen BovineWaRTS, don't make me drive down to seatac and pound your geo arse into the ground...

engineering geologist...now there's an oxyMORON... go do some laplace transforms on a chunk o' dirt, you mud pounder...yeah, that's right, you do your "blow counts" on all sorts of "mud"...

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where my calc's, pigbitch!??!???

Shut up before you get your ass kicked, pansy pacifist wussface nanny-stater pinko! so sayeth a fellow pansy pacifist wussface nanny-stater pinko

that's cuz i forget my windshirt and get cooooold...

as are trusty neutrinos and windshirts...