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i'd like to meet will

You'll be happy to know Camper Van AND Cracker are playing a NYE show at the Doug Fir. y'all get all the good shows up there damn it

Please explain how multiple progeny benefit the environment. Average age of resident in Colorado City, AZ = 14 I eagerly await your snide, dismissive, non sequitar reply. Seems like you'd have to evaluate that in terms of something like: Total Consumption = Resource Use Per Person * Number of Persons. The polygamists doubtless do well on the resource use per-person front, but probably not so well on the number of persons front. For those who are truly sincere in their convictions and their desire to save the earth from the impending climate catastrophe, the implications are clear: they can maximize their impact on both fronts by killing themselves before they have a chance to reproduce. I totally agree. I think that would solve the whole problem and help with the over population issue as well.*nods emphatically* better yet if they refuse to kill them selves perhaps we can purchase a hunting license

oohhhhh the pixies I love them I just saw Black Francis last month here in town. he still rocks my world. (not as much as when he was in the pixies though)

who is cracker??? I am still passionately in love with dave vannian. some one already said decendents too. What about Violent Femms??? I love them too and the romans and the dead milkmen (i already said them) someone said sex pistols... what about Public Image Limited? Love Suicidal Tendencies the best thing about punk and the 80's was the local scene a few chairs detonators zombie toolshed uncle charlie man those were some really good days

no has said Camper Van Beethoven. "Take the skin heads bowling take them bowling" "where where the hell is Bill"

yep Punk is Henry Rollins. or Henry Rollins is my ideal punk... either way works for me. punk is about meaning what you say and saying what you mean, and being willing to put your money action time where your mouth is. don't preach it unless you are willing to live it. what punk has always been to me is honest. sincere.real. from the heart. and funny and fun too (dead milkmen, cramps, to name two that come to mind. (I stand by this even though archy whole heartedly disagrees.)

I am really going to miss you dear. Please take care of you and be in touch when you can. if one more attractive man moves away i am going to have take drastic action I lost my climbing partner (badvoodoo moved to Sydney) and now Mikey too. God this is depressing.

yayayyayayayy this is the best news i have read all day

i always assume that if people aren't posting they are climbing.... lucky bastards.

this thred is now officially flogging the dead horse. you now when i was a teen i didn't believe my dad when he sat me down and told me that the best way to change the system is from inside the system. but damn it all he was right. you will not effect true change with out convincing a majority of people that you are in the right. that takes time, logical debate, constructive conversation. the civil rights movement was fought on many fronts. it wasn't just the activists in the streets. there were many people on capital hill working for equality. and as time marched on more and more people with that mind set were elected until it was a majority.

and this is why i think you are so adorable and wonderful and brilliant. dealing with the pompous passive aggressive corporate bullshit makes me so mad i feel like jumping out of me skin and running around screaming like a banshee.

YAYAYYA red monk is back!!!!!!! That's right baby and almost whole. Missed ya sweetums. I missed you too sugar!!! you better PM me and tell me what happened *worried*

YAYAYYA red monk is back!!!!!!!

that is so sweet!!!! i will be traveling about an hour from home. turkey day with the P's, the Thing's, and my boyfriend.

very well said sir!

if you retire will you come and remodel the room in my house my dad said he would do when he retired?? the answer to this question will help me decided what i think?

The fact that the Olympia protests were overwhelmingly peaceful (on the part of the protesters, at least) seems to be entirely lost on you. Does the time-honored American tradition of non-violent civil disobedience represent a hate-crime for you? If so, I suggest you contact your congressperson and suggest they draft up some legislation to that effect. I'm sure Bushco. would see the benefits. They can protest peacefully on the side of the road. Once they physically block a public space and take it upon themselves to determine which uses are and are not permissible, and who can and cannot pass, they have overstepped their bounds and assumed rights that only properly belong to the legislature. They've also entered into a realm where although they are not resorting to physical violence, they are using physical force in an attempt to impose their agenda, rather than the force of their arguments alone. Once you cross that bridge, you will and should be forcibly removed by the people that the freely elected legislature have authorized to do so in order to uphold these same laws. "Those members of our community who attend or are employed at Evergreen and who participate in the port protests, do so as individual citizens, exercising their conscience on their own time. That is their right. It is the right of all of us as members of a democratic society. The expression of political views through protest has a long history in our democracy and is widely understood as a fundamental civil right. However, when those engaging in protest express their views by breaking the law either through peaceful civil disobedience, or, regrettably, by destroying property in the community or on campus, they should expect to be held accountable by our legal system with the attendant due process." thank you JayB I live in a city over run on several occasions by protest turned riot. i have been caught in the middle and seen people on all sides wounded, killed, and property destroyed by zealots from both sides. I no longer trust the far left any more than i ever trusted the right.

as far as i know there is no draft at this time. that means all military personal are voluntary. war sucks but the people there singed up to be there knowing that they may have to pay some kind of cost. don't belittle the gift that these folks have given to their country becuase you do not agree with the administration. it is noble to serve our country. i think many since the 80's have lost sight of the idea of peaceful protest. i respect peoples freedom and right to have a say, to protest to disagree. preaching hate mongering is not the way to do it. we do not educate through violence and hate. we do not garner respect and the attention of people in power by making asses of ourselves.

i hate to spoil the story, but we all die and the sun goes super nova.

ha! it never was

any time any where

three times if i don't just to be sure

all i can think when i look at that is "thats about the time we were making Thing 2." poor child i am sure he will be scared for life now...

Perhaps that will be more enjoyable than Ivan singing at the belay. I doubt it though. I don't know about you but it makes me climb 100 times harder when some one is singing on belay could be that i just want to get out of ear shot but either way it rocks my wold