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He's probably got more than 1 mistress on the side, and he comes home to a housemaker/nanny he doesn't need to put out for. Maybe he's happy? i would bet he has a lover. and doesn't give a shit that his wife doesn't put out any more. which creates a whole new world of issues for even more people. but with her attitude, could you blame him?? Blame him for seeking someone who will love him? no not at all. everyone needs to be loved appriciated, shown physical affection (okay maybe that is just me ) it is just messy and more drama than there needs to be. I think that she needs to show some curage and let this man go. WHy do i say her and not him? becuase if he leaves he is abandoning his family. If she does it she is seeking fullfillment. it is a mixed up messed up world of many double standards that we live in. and that is one of them.

He's probably got more than 1 mistress on the side, and he comes home to a housemaker/nanny he doesn't need to put out for. Maybe he's happy? i would bet he has a lover. and doesn't give a shit that his wife doesn't put out any more. which creates a whole new world of issues for even more people.

good call Will... Sex is only so good for a woman as she is willing to make it lets not be lazy here.

generaly men in this situation stay becasue they feel obligated to stay. they want to provide for the family they created. they stay out of a sense of duty.

I was thinking much the same thing. although this does further my theory that you can't bring children into being with the love of your life. relationships change dramticly when children come into the picture. I don't think it is sex that is the issue all the time... but there is something. for many women they find the love and affection (not sexual but hugging) they need from their children. it is sad that these women aren't woman enough to let the guy go and be with a woman who actualy wants to have sex with him. being stuck in a miserable sexless marrige feeling totaly unloved and unwanted must be heartbreaking.

those puppies looke like my freinds chahoooahoooas named Peanutbutter and Chocolatechip... SOOOO CUTE!!!!

Kev I love the big island. there are a ton of things to see and do and lots of differnt types of beaches and climates. and they have mountains... well sorta. any way that would be my sugestion. My ex badvoodoo grew up in Hawi and it is an awsome little town. I can't think of any where in Hawaii i wouldn't go with a kid. the water is good, and (some) people speak english. Just go, have fun, WEAR SUN SCREAN!!! seriously even if you don't usualy burn you will there. happy travles!!

YOu may have to buy a shirt for each avatare

Porter, I got my shirts and they are PERFECT!!! just the right size. I will send pics as soon as i get them!!!! xoxoxoxooxox Muffin

Thank you Porter!!!! you totaly RAWK!!!

did you send my shirts??

sure but that doesn't mean i would send you video

Any way, any day, girl'fren'. 8D :kisss: PS. we always have room for a Minx and an Archenemy. ... WOOOO HOOOOOO i love it when we have a discussion I think we have room for sherri too

I am with archy... if you knew me you wouldn't doubt

Muffy - Crossfit is everywhere. Go here and look at the affliates list on the right hand side. You'll have to scroll, but you can see if there's a Eugene one or nearby. Considering there are two garage gym (one a true affliate) near me, I have to assume there are some near you. All the workouts can be scaled. They can be done by any age or fitness level. You know me. If I can do this, so can you! And everyone is really supportive. My instructor never makes me feel uncomfortable or like I totally sucked (even though I do). It's all about getting in shape and personal improvement. I use this forum to get the scaled workout of the day (WOD) when I'm heading to a garage gym to work out. It's really fun and a great way to get in shape. It really helps the climbing, too! I will look into it. i have lost a ton of muscle mass and streangth in the past few months. I feel like i am wasting away. although i did climb a little last night.

that sounds just my style

I always think of homeopathy/herbs in regard to living a healthy life style. if i have a head ache i take an asprin(willow bark) if i have a digestive issue i dig out my slippery elm. if i have a tummy ache i look for some spirmint leaves. pared with healthy living those types of things work. HOwever if there is something really really wrong i want answers and i want a medication or surgery or stitches that will solve the issue.

you guys get so off track... i have tried many kinds of homeapthay and "natural" herbal medicines. sometimes it helps a bit some times it doesn't. the teething tablets worked really good on my kiddos. and i tated them, they arn't icky or anything. so it can't hurt unless there is some kind of allergy. i used that in conjuntion with the frozen teething rings and other things that i could find that helped. I think as with most things, looking at a "cure" from one percpective isn't going to get you anywhere. i feel it is most effective when you use all the tools available that you feel comfortable with. if you like accupuncture and it helps you do that. if you like homeapathy and it works for you DO THAT. who cares if it is a placibo effect. as long as it WORKS!!!

So thanks for this imput. I started right away with regular personal training and had a great experience. Last night was my first class. It was much more fun than I'd expected. I'm very happy! any thing like that down this direction??(Eugene Or) my diagnosis is sticking (psoriatic arthritis) i got a chance to check out some x-rays of my bones sacrum looks a little worse for the wear. as in i have actual bone loss/damage... I refuse to give up being active but i need something that can work with me and people who can help me set realistic atainable goals so i don't feel like such a shelb all the time.

Or carry a snack size zip-lock and utilize body cavities. EEEWWWWWWWW

Oh ya P.S. if you ever have the misfortune to be stuck out in the cold with a GPS unit that freezes up, i read a TR thate termial gravity wrote once that he was able to bring his back to life by tapin one of those hand warmer pakcet thingers to the battary area of the GPS. maybe it would work for a cell phone too.

well said minx my dear. sounds like things went well as far as B plans go Mr.Pitts.

as nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs

I do believe we had a conversation somewhat like this in the past. I think we agreed to include Miss Muffy in our love nest. I am still willing to honor this arrangement. awwww I love you two the MOST!!! just as long as i can have some boys on the side

I would be up for that. My kids are not super star climbers but they like to play outside some and it would be good for them/me to hang out with like minded folks. mine are 12 and 9 both going on 18 (I sware!!!)