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Perfect for carrying snowshoes & skis on day trips. Zipper pulls have long plastic tube that makes it easy for you to go to things with gloves on. Sides of pack have gear slings. Internal water reservoir pouch. Retail price was $150. Selling for $60. Item is in excellent condition. eBay feedback: http://myworld.ebay.com/layback75 PM me if interested or email me here.

I wore this once when my baggage was delayed and US Air was kind enough to buy me some stuff. It has a small dirt/mud mark that is barely noticeable on the left chest. Waterproof and lightweight. Retail Price $119. http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/patagonia-mens-torrentshell-pullover-rainwear?p=83930-0-175 Selling for $60. Images of item (pretty accurate color - I'd call it wasabi): eBay Feedback: http://myworld.ebay.com/layback75 PM me if interested or email me here.

Title says it all. Retail price is $300. Selling price: $150 http://www.arcteryx.com/product.aspx?EN/Gamma-MX-Jacket Image from the internet with true colors: eBay feedback: http://myworld.ebay.com/layback75 Actual images of item: Item is in perfect condition. I hardly wore it because it didn't fit me correctly. I should have bought a L. PM me if interested or email me here.

Nice work guys.

Nice work. If I'm not mistaken you've been trying to hit this for a while. Congrats.

Fight it and please let us know what happens. I will never buy one. I'd rather spend a day in court than pay for access to that which is legally mine. Great advice!

I'm not really sure why we'd ever want to consider getting behind something spearheaded by the North Cascades Conservation Council. These are the same jackasses that delayed repairs on the Mountain Loop Highway and sued to terminate repairs on the Suiattle River Road. They're not about preserving access; they're about restricting it.

Nice Josh. Rad pics.

Dang. Nice work guys.

God-willing I'm headed there this weekend KK - I'll let you know what I find. There's a 0.8 mile road walk to the Boston Bain trail currently and a 2.0 mile road walk to the Cascade Pass Switback bonanza. Forecast just dipped for Sunday...

If you can't win, break shit.

Nice job. I hear the rock up there is like fly paper. It's been on my list for a while.

I got the same form letter as above in GP's post twice. The second one was sent to the next person in the alphabet relative to my name, who I happen to know. When they recalled the message I sent them a response indicating that I had forwarded their ridiculous form letter to this person on their behalf.

I think it's an interesting topic. Maybe I'm missing the background - was this initiated in a different thread? Is there an ulterior motive or something? Here's why it's interesting to me: I think we'd all agree that Half Dome is a "Big Wall". But according to some of the definitions we've seen here it's not. Alex Honnold smoked it in what 2.5 hours solo? If we grade things based on what the most advanced party has done on them, a practice commonly done when an aid line goes free, then Half Dome via the Standard route is no longer a Big Wall. Is The Nose a big wall? It's been speed-climbed in God only knows what time yet it's called a big wall by those who employ speed-climbing big wall tactics to it. Yet these people don't employ "big wall tactics" so to speak so by another's definition it's not a big wall. Lots of climbers overnight on Green Drag-On and Town Crier and employ "big wall tactics" to them. I'd argue they're "walls" and not "big walls". Yet, by another's definition, because one hauled water and one slept on a ledge, it's a big wall. Or is it? University Wall at Squamish - big wall? Seems pretty big to me... Someone with way more ability than me would free it in a half day. I'd flounder on it for 2...

Definition seems elusive. Grade IV+ and not a ridge??? Not sure really.

No matter how many times this route sees a TR it's still awesome to read. I love that route. It was one of the first I attempted when I moved here too - except I learned how to make a checker board from seri strips and wait out a storm. Congrats!

It's true that The Mountaineers have done their own share of messed up stuff that isn't cool. Personally I think the party of 6 that the Mountaineers had on The Tooth was too big also, but that's been the maximum number allowed on Monty alpine rock climbs since I've been a member, which was 2005. I'd like to see that number dropped to 4 personally. I can't speak to whatever dumb stuff the club surely did before that. The large groups you've seen on the Nisqually, for which the club paid for and was issued special use permits, were terminated in 2007 because it doesn't teach students the right thing and it makes the club look bad. No offense Ira, but you're "we had 15 on Friday" and "that's what you do in a class" attitude kind of worries me what you're teaching your students about acceptable group size and consideration for others in the general climbing community. We all have a right to enjoy a day on Das Toof no matter how skilled or unskilled we are. Do you really think it's considerate to others to put up top-ropes on every pitch of The Tooth? Couldn't you just as easily go out in parties of 6 over 2 weekends instead of parties of 12-15 over one weekend? Isn't it the same number of qualified people to oversee the folks who are learning? It's not like we're talking about a crag where one can just walk in their flip flops another 10 feet and set up on the next climb, you know? I hope you reconsider when planning for next year. I think it might make everyone's experience better, including perhaps your own people. My 2 overstated cents...

I reached out to the WAC via email to basically ask "what gives?" and had a nice email exchange with one of their members who is going to call me this week. Maybe some good can come out of this and we can see an adjustment to the group size in the future. Surely they don't all have the same "we don't give a damn" attitude that Ira seems to have?

Someone suggested that a separate thread was in order. Discuss. http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7991096

June would be better than July or August IMHO. I think your kid will fry in the summer where it's two steps forward and one step back in the hot, dry pumice. At least in June if it's cool you can add layers. I assume your putting your toddler in a kid carrier.

Another vote for the Deuter Kid Comfort II. We've used it on overnight backcountry hut-to-hut trips. It adjusts well so both you and mom can carry the kiddo. I've yet to do a summer overnight with my son and wife so I can't speak to it's ability to handle your gear, your toddler's gear and a tent.

I didn't say they had more than 12. The images clearly show 11 people (+1 photographer) and the exif data clearly shows that this is when they do their alpine rock FT at the Tooth every year. ETA: I'd also throw a Mounty group under the bus if there was a group that big on an alpine rock climb. If we, the climbing communiy, don't hold people accountable for their actions stuff like this happens and eventually one of us gets stuck on a rock climb waiting for 12 of our closest friends...