Layback

So when are you joining bro? You climb with a bunch of us so you might as well get yourself a smurf suit and join us. P.S. Wayne's equivalency was the click of a button and I think we could do the same for you.

Wayne was just granted "full equivalency" and won't be taking any silly courses. It's an honor to have you Wayne. Thanks for helping out. If anyone else is interested in equivalency and seeing what's new I'd be happy to help with that. Just shoot me a pm.

That sucks about Bill. How shortsighted of the club. Very sad. I can guarantee you that wouldn't be the case with Wayne. Wayne has a few friends on the committee and although I don't know Wayne, I'd raise hell if he was somehow not allowed to pursue this. I hope it's okay to speak for the others but I know that Jim, Jessica, Geoff and I would have your back (among others).

It doesn't surprise me that there are a lot of negative comments. Years of ridiculous stupidity and militaristic attitudes take a lot of time to overcome in the public eye. Some of us joined and didn't like the way things were run and decided to do something about it. We could use the help. IMHO the club has come a long way from when I joined in '05 (and nearly quit because I refused to put my name on my helmet among other things). Wayne - I think it would be rad if you joined. And for the record if you've got the experience you don't need to take a class.

Great condition: $200. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=layback75&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true You can PM me or email me here.

I think we'd want to do that anyway. PMS gets all of my business. I'll just be staying away from BD and Petzl going forward. I no longer trust these companies ability to limit this kind of crap no matter how nice the message is on that corporate BD website. I've been skeptical for a while.

I'd like to take an optimistic approach and hope that Jens is right, but... Can Petzl (or BD for that matter) introduce new legislation and tighter controls into Chinese manufacturing law that will effectively put an end to manufacturing plants producing bogus gear in after hours? This isn't a Petzl issue. It's a Chinese Manufacturing issue and Petzl produces gear there - so it's now Petzl's issue as well as Black Diamond's issue. Metolius and Wild Country are going to be getting the lion's share of my business going forward.

True - But when companies move manufacturing to countries like China (where there is a lack of government regulation in place to prevent this) as means of diminishing the margin so as to gain a competitive advantage and increase shareholder wealth this is what happens. Although Wall Street didn't produce these fakes they moved their manufacturing to a place where they can't maintain the same control in their original factories. We see this all the time with companies that outsource manufacturing to places like China. Go onto eBay and you can find 1000's of NFL jersey fakes that are created in the same factories that produce the legit ones. Legit NFL merchandise by day; low quality fakes by night. It turns out that the same it true of climbing gear.

Not a recall, but something incredibly disappointing. This is exactly why we need to buy from companies like Metolius, which is made by climbers for climbers in the USA. Wall Street's bottom-line tactics aren't in our interest. http://www.petzl.com/us/outdoor/news-2/2011/02/11/warning-regarding-presence-counterfeit-versions-petzl-products

Tent is sold.

All of these items are from a smoke-free home and are in excellent condition. There aren't any rips or tears. I've been living with the notion that I might someday need to outfit an army. Time to sell some gear I don't use any more. PM me if interested. Or you can email me here. eBay Feedback: http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=layback75&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true L.L. Bean Mt. Washington Backpack 5,000 cubic inches. Size L. $80 Gregory Forester 4,850 cubic inches. Gear loops. Size L. $100 The North Face Middle Triple Jacket Size L. $100 The North Face Denali Vest Size L. $50 Kelty Streamside 2 2 person tent. $70 Grivel Monopoint Crampons. $75 Raichle Plastic Mountaineering Boots. Size 9.5. $75 Tubbs Mountain 30 $100

Bump - I just reduced the price. The best you could do with a 20% coupon at REI is still $517 w/ tax. I'm selling it for $459.

PM sent.

Rad.

I am selling a brand new with tags, never been worn Acr'teryx Alpha SV Jacket. It's a size large. Candy Apple Red. It retails for $599 ($648 with tax). I am selling it for $459. That's a savings of nearly $200. PM me if interested. Arc'teryx Alpha SV Jacket

Cool. When did the Mazamas start offering this?

+1. I met Joe a couple times and was thoroughly impressed with his kindness, humility, and generosity. Joe would most certainly do the same for any of us. It's the least we can do. RIP Joe. You were a good man with a big heart and some amazing skills as both a climber and photographer.

This peak never gets done and then, wham!!! A TR on CC and a TR on NWH. I'm curious, all of the guidebooks say it's pretty run-out. Would you give it a PG rating or more like a R? I need to get out there! This is such an impressive looking peak! Congrats!

Nice job! Would love to see some more pics if you have them.

Has anyone been there recently? I'm thinking of something in the area for this weekend since west of the crest looks questionable and I'm wondering what sort of snowpack conditions I might find. Has anyone had the chance to dig a pit or get out there at all in the last 5 days?

Impressive piece of pioneering and style guys. I am way psyched for you Tom. I'd be curious to know the last time the Cascades saw a FA of an unclimbed peak. I'm sure it's been some time. Does anyone know?

Rad. Do you have any pics?

That's cool. You should post this over here: http://www.nwhikers.net There's more than a few peakbaggers who would be very interested.

I figured someone was getting cocky about an upcoming climb...

Thanks for sharing the pics waterboy. That top pitch looks nice. Too bad we got such a late start. Nice to see you up there.