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Has nothing to do with the political party, there's just a high correlation between homophobia and closet cases.

Why are the Republicans like a bunch of 40' cocks? Seems like there's just no end to those pricks.

Porter, you're worth twice what they're paying you.

Hmmm, is that Squire Creek madness the work of Zippy, he of the 3/16" hangerless buttonheads?

Yeah, I wondered if it was chain sandwiches - their appeal is that without hangers they tend to be less attractive to thieves and you save a good $10 per anchor by skipping hangers and Rapides (assuming you use something better than small hardware store links). On the downside, there are some questionable aspects as to how they load the bolt (though sport climbing TR loads are not that high, I haven't heard of any catastrophic failures), not everyone does a good job with washers to keep from pinching the chain against the rock, and as you've noted, maintenance/replacement is problematic. I would expect that simply re-using the 5 piece bolts would be tough to impossible - the hole is likely deep enough to snug the head of the bolt up to a hanger. Since the bolt is sticking out a good inch or so, isn't it, you'd have to drive the bolt deeper. One might have to pull and re-drill (larger diameter?) or simply chop and abandon, a pain in the ass no matter how it goes. There's a lot of chain sandwiches at City of Rocks and Banks Lake too. A simpler maintenance approach would be to use either bolt cutters or a cordless angle grinder to remove the worn working end of the chain, adding a Rapide link if needed. Still a pain, and it doesn't address the question of the way the chain loads the extended bolt. How long a bolt did they use anyway, how far into the rock does the bolt go? It's anyone's guess, isn't it? In the long haul, chain sandwiches are a poor choice for anchors. I'm sad to say I've got a bunch of those to replace in Tenino too. Damned cheap bastards, who put those in anyway?

Years ago (maybe they still do?) Playboy had an annual article rating the top party colleges for those who like to drink. They always excluded the UW at Laramie, declaring that it was an amateur competition and those people were professionals.

Boy, you are being some kind of meany head. Did you get sacked, or are you sleeping on the couch again? Stand back folks, just don't get your hands near his mouth!

I'm confused as to what you want to do. Put a hanger onto an existing Rawl 5 piece? Usually works fine to just thread the bolt out and put a hanger on, the cone sticks in the sleeve, stays put to replace it. Adding chains is a matter of using a Rapide link to attach the chain to the hanger. The plus side is that maintenance and replacement is pretty easy. Bummer is that the hardware can be removed by the casual vandal out to score some material, even threadlocker is not a guarantee. Not that you'd wanna put that stuff on the bolt threaded into the cone anyway... I'm not a huge Fixe fan. Those horizontal hangers with the ring remind me of those old pop top hangers that put an outwards pull on the bolt, and the single welded ring can't be easily replaced when the yahoos TR their entire wedding entourage with their grit filled rope run right through the ring. Of course, maybe you intend something completely different?

Yes, it is best to be kind to people wearing cats, those things can get surly

MFoyp71xw3w Oh, and perhaps I should quote No.13 Baby: "Um, misogyny rules?"

Yes.

Woah, your first day out was under the wing of the legendary EC Joe? I think my first roped climbing experience was using piece of hemp rope pilfered from a construction site and a scrap railroad spike to chop steps up a 50 degree mud/rock/dirt embankment in San Diego in pursuit of bands of crystals, circa 1970. Sometime a little later we also engaged in dulfersitz rappels off two story concrete tilt up walls on construction sites. The real deal didn't commence until Thanksgiving weekend 1972, in Joshua Tree with some Sierra Club Rock Climbing Section outing, headed by my friend Alan Nelson's dad. First climb was on some rotten pile out in the desert on the way there, but we spent several days in Indian Cove on things I'm sure I'd no longer recognize. Goldline ropes and Lowa Scout boots, yee haw. Guess this is my 35th anniversary coming up.

Sure, just keep me posted. We're into the season where day of the week doesn't mean much compared to what the weather has been doing. Just let me know (pm, email, or telephone) when you want to come out so my family knows when there's someone in the front yard.

I thought cereal monogamy meant you finished one box before you started the next.

Hah, now that's something we can agree on!

Tree work eh? If you're not a certified arborist or work under the supervision of one then you're a tree butcher. Good to here you've got other things going on. Take the elitist shit and cram it up your ass, Feck. BTW, It is spelled "hear" Spoken like a "guy with a truck" Get a license, dirtbag!

Did you know that "gullible" is not in the dictionary?

I haven't checked, but the hillside is not saturated yet, so I'm sure some things are climbable. C'mon out.

Yikes, I guess it really is the slow season in the North Cascades forum now...

Err, that was for PP, not what I do for a living. I'm a general contractor. Very manly sort of job.

The Little Black Dress Parade!

No, those pads are so hard on our little friends in teh plant kingdom, and chalk has been known to cause cancer in teh state of California. It is funny to see "boldering" and "pure" in the same sentence, but I guess thats V2.0 in action for you.

It's just that I remembered that they weren't my goats...