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You bought speakers from Trask? I hope you disinfected those things.

For the most part, they weren't arrested. Instead, they were pepper sprayed and forcibly removed. They weren't rioting or running amuck, they were merely obstructing, and assault rather than arrest appears to be the preferred response. Perhaps we have a new legal tactic to deal with those slow parties in our way on Outer Space. dgi5ESpueX8

Prole, sounds like you've got a beef with the sacred doctrine of One Dollar - One Vote.

He might well be, but E is hip and wack, yo.

Yup, look up "classical liberalism" on Wiki. I think Jay's picture is there somewhere. Welcome back baby killer, no one can fault your willingness to walk your talk. I haven't heard of anyone spitting on troops lately though, if that's your kink you'll probably have to take an ad out in The Stranger to get your needs met.

Rob, you could have posted up days ago and saved us all this.

Heh, you ask my 16 year old daughter's opinion on that topic.

If you want an epic, the gate location is perfect.

Hey, I never said I don't like Pink Floyd, just that they belong in a context. Listen to what you want on the approach, but gimme "I'm So Bored With The USA" at the crux anytime.

Okay, lets make it halfway up Lightning Dome, I fully intend to take that tour with you.

I'm unpredictable, I inherited it from my mother, RIP.

Tyranny knows no party. If the shit (excuse me, I mean *bleep*) ever really hits the fan, I'll expect you in the trenches right alongside me. In fact, you'd better be there, since I don't actually own a gun.

And as an aside, the Clash trump Pink Floyd any day, and I'll head butt the lot a ya anemic wankers who disagree.

Christian Reich on the march, How're you gonna vote in 08, are you down with the man? Mitt Romney or Ron Paul, it's up to you mister poster child tighty rightie. When they kick out your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun When the law break in How you gonna go? Shot down on the pavement Or waiting in death row You can crush us You can bruise us But you'll have to answer to Oh, Guns of Brixton The money feels good And your life you like it well But surely your time will come As in heaven, as in hell You see, he feels like Ivan BORN under the Brixton sun His game is called survivin' At the end of the harder they come You know it means no mercy They caught him with a gun No need for the Black Maria Goodbye to the Brixton sun You can crush us You can bruise us But you'll have to answer to Oh-the guns of Brixton

Ya know, I gotta respect Ron Paul for saying exactly what he believes, but the fact remains that it doesn't line up with what I believe more than about 38%. That puts him ahead of Mitt Romney, but considerably behind Dennis Kucinch.

Okay, I give up, you're as bad a "I'm never wrong" fruit loop as Dru. Liquified natural gas versus natural gas? WTF ya dipstick, stored under pressure, the gas is liquefied. Ya know, generally speaking, I consider you to be a fellow traveler, but in this thread you're a self justifying rabid weasel. I can't fucking believe I find myself agreeing with Fairweather with regards to anything besides which route we should take to avoid brush in the Olympics, but what can I say, you're a uniter, not a divider.

Did you know that "gullible" is not in the dictionary?

Okay, now we're talking. If those are the actual on the ground statistics for the vehicle, 47/70, then that's a whole different class of vehicle than what we've been discussing. Much more effective than Tvash arguing that he can't see your numbers. Maybe Daimler is your daddy?

Hmmm, I make that six conventional gas cars rated at 40mpg and above. Maybe you're trying to play some semantic/statistical game regarding the term "average"? I live in the country, so my "average" rather resembles the term "highway." Smartcar's website declares "The vehicle is designed to achieve 40 plus mpg under normal driving conditions." Frankly, given the constraints imposed by the size and capacity of the vehicle, the thing ought to offer considerably better mpg performance than a variety of other four passenger conventionally powered vehicles. Given the performance stats offered by the manufacturer, I can only conclude that there is more smoke, mirrors, and marketing hype than actual delivery on claims of impact. Greenwashing, while perhaps an effective sales strategy, is to be reviled no matter who makes the fraudulent claim. You know, it doesn't matter how the product actually performs, as long as the consumer feels good about it. Yes, higher mileage better performing small cars are desirable to a segment of the market, and necessary for a host of environmental & ecological reasons. No, Daimler is not your daddy.

____________________________________________________________________ TOP FUEL ECONOMY LEADERS - 2001 MODEL YEAR Manufacturer/Model City/Highway 1. Honda Insight (electric hybrid) 61/68 2. Toyota Prius (electric hybrid) 52/45 3. Volkswagen Golf (diesel, manual) 42/49 3. Volkswagen Jetta (diesel, manual) 42/49 3. Volkswagen New Beetle (diesel, manual) 42/49 4. Honda Civic HX (manual) 36/44 5. Suzuki Swift 36/42 6. Honda Civic HX (automatic) 35/40 7. Volkswagen Jetta (diesel, automatic) 34/45 7. Volkswagen Golf (diesel, automatic) 34/45 7. Volkswagen New Beetle (diesel, automatic) 34/45 8. Toyota Echo 34/41 9. Chevrolet Prizm 32/41 9. Toyota Corolla 32/41 10. Honda Civic 32/39 source

I gotta agree with the folks who say that smart car doesn't deliver the mileage performance you ought to get from something that size. We have a Toyota Echo, essentially the same chassis the original Prius had, but without the batteries and such. It's a 2002, bought new for $14,000 when my wife had to commute twice a week from Oly to Portland. It's got a good 140,000 miles on it now and still gets a pretty steady 43mpg on the highway. It does seat four, though there's not enough trunk space to make a four person road trip.

You might need to be patient. When I was 13 I had an ice skate fall from a storage bin in the rafters and land blade first on my big toe. I never fully lost the nail, but it was partially detached and funky for a long time, and would accumulate nasty smelly bits that could be scraped out. However, it did fully recover by the time I was 39.

Sexy, are you a mean drunk?

Arch, that's "right" as in Treaty Rights, part of an agreement that was made with the US Government in exchange for their land. For them, it's not a privilege, it's an integral part of the short end of the stick they were handed.