Greg_W

Saw a graphic last night in the bar that Dusty Baker is the first manager to get the Cubs to the Div. Championship since 1908!!!

Good point, a geek would probably have good math skills. However, you cast some doubt on your quality as a climbing partner if you can't do the math to figure out how much is remaining of a 60-m rope when I'm leading and have 35-m out.

Well, bears period and a ban on guns which is bullshit.

Cool, I make No. 5. By my count you were #4 Iain. I was a geek long before I got into climbing - engineering school does that to you.

You just described Yellowstone, genius, and Yosemite as well.

Hey dipshit, the Saudi wells were drilled and developed with AMERICAN equipment that was stolen by the Saudis.

Uh, if you didn't go last year, you may not know that the evening festivities ARE NOT kid friendly. Drunkenness and vile depravity will reign. Vomitting is encouraged, but not mandatory.

No, that's my honest opinion of you. I like to keep it simple.

Shut up, bitch.

You'll never improve getting yanked around by your dick all the time. hehehe. This weekend it's the rents, next weekend the plants need to be rotated, after that you'll be rearranging the spice rack, dusting her vintage Barbie collection, helping her do a home permanent on her sister, vacuuming HER brand new car that YOU never get to drive, and on and on and on. Might as well sell your rack and rope now, man. I'll give you $100 for the lot.

I want to see the photoshopped pic of allison, then. C'mon, veggie, post it.

is this true? I don't think you can say there is an blanket "ideal" out there, since the mechanics of relationships work differently for different people. As several have said previously. What works for some, doesn't work for others, and vice versa. I think that most people DO value justice and ARE looking for a simplification in their daily lives. (This is based only on my interactions with people I know).

Little peckerwoods don't have a chance!

No, just had a partner who preferred to hit Squamish, it's closer, and we were looking for lots of long cracks. Besides, you're the ultimate in climber-cool, Matt.

Plotting your doom, assclown

I have no idea what you are talking about, Erik. I was, in general, saying that you are a fucking idiot.

You learn through success AND failure, you stupid fuck. Young pups like you that think you have it all sorted out make me laugh.

Okay, so there were only two official attendees, unless you count the couple from Quebec that gave us beer and the retired gentleman who was returning home after motoring through the Yukon and Alaska since June. However, we got in 25 pitches on sweet Squamish granite cracks.

If you're offering to help, let's talk privately.

Do I look like a mule to you? It ain't dope; I'm, like, Beaver Cleaver innocent here.

I need transportation to Smith Rocks for a small package. Anyone going to the Rope Up there and willing to transport something? Let me know. Thanks Greg

Oh I somehow missed this gem in the discussion. Points to the same general issue, folks who feel the need to carry guns are scared of something, folks that don't look like them maybe? Man, must take a lot of energy being ready for the boggieman to jump out of hiding places in the city, ready to come into your house, etc. More suburban paranoia. Jim, you defend yourself and your family the way you see fit. I'll do the same with mine. No paranoia is involved. End of discussion.

According to what I've read, registration was ennacted in the 30's (? I'm going from memory). The ban was in the past 10-15 years. That's handguns. Rifles are a different story; that registration is now ongoing and costing a bundle more than originally quoted, on the order of a factor of 10, I believe. Erik, you are right, I didn't refute j_b's stats in an accurate manner.

Yes, I do so to prove my point. Government ever seeks to expand its power. Look at Canada, Great Britain, Australia. All these countries started with some innocuous "registration" scheme. This led to confiscation and banning of any ownership. Why register it unless you need to know where it's at so you can take it away? I'm out of here. PM me any questions, I'll respond when I get back.

No equivalent to Patriot Act? Well, they had to vote for it, for one. Two, the Assault Weapons Ban that they are trying to broaden on an extremely scary level (banning semi-automatic shotguns, commonly used for bird hunting, etc.) RE: mentioning stats, because I believe them and feel they support my position. I can't make you believe them, but I can cite them to support my argument; whether you accept them as valid is up to you. No, these are potential crimes as reported to police; I don't think crack deals gone bad would count. You may never be the victim of a crime, but my house may never burn down, either. Insurance, man. It is my personal belief that I want to be able to protect my family in the best way possible; I chose to do so with a gun, others may not. REgarding type of gun, this is a BS argument. At the heart is the right to protect myself in the best way I SEE FIT, not any government body.