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this guy sounds like he'll be a hellcat in bed

the answer you're looking for larry is 42

you finding comfort in haikus these days larry?

sure ain't ernie pyle

Anyone know this? JH? no, but it was already in effect i believe when i moved out here in 2002

watchu read'n fore?

you got yourself onna yer fancy book-learn'n words there!

circlejerk sockstain?

more like the front 7

thought that was from the exorcist? the unholy highway?

was thinking more like "dickheads having irresponsible fun w/ powertools"

If you met McGown I seriously doubt you'd 'mythologizing' him, I wouldn't, and I doubt he'd care much for it. He was just a guy who like getting out there and putting up stuff and did a lot of drilling and pounding up in the process; hell, he even pounded stoppers in. My point was that those guys undoubtably looked at that face just like you and I did, and McGown felt no compunction at all about drilling his way up stuff and even he left it be, as did all the others of the old guard. But at least someone is acknowledging this was just about fun and something to do in the winter. Again, my concern is strictly the precedents it sets both for more of this sort of thing and for the fixed pro count. That many points of non-clean aid is simply asking Beacon to pay a lot of freight for your guys' fun and your collective proclivity towards aid climbing over free. he and his generation left it alone b/c no one in their right minds would climb on this miserable side if they could just as easily go to east, west or south sides, not out of some deep ethical commitment did i ever say this was about more than having fun, or that my purusit of fun overrode my sense of ethics? that was your assumption, and has nothign to do w/ me. you also make erroneous assumptions that i like to aid-climb more than free. there is essentially zero free climing to be had legally at beacon most of the closure. i think you get off feeling like you're royal robbins or the like - if you need me to be your warren harding i'll be honored to attempt the part, though i doubt, even w/ signficant training, that i could equal his drinking abilities

family weekend in anticipation of extended presidents day weekend but man these past 2 days proved way better than their forecasts...what'd you do at b-tons?

never met mcgown - sounds like you're saying he didn't climb for fun? sounds like you're mythologizing him for your own purposes: like the russians, he didn't even take a dump w/o a plan to push the limits of human ability and the glory of Beacon!!! only 1 bolt is there for hauling purposes, and that one not b/c hauling w/o it was impossible, but b/c w/o it you're virtually certain to rain down rocks all over the base steve, the route has actually been done in a day on several occasions already (though it hasn't been soloed in a day)

you keep hyperbolizing the # - there are 26 lead bolts over 7 pitches - every pin could be pulled, and thus not be considered a fixed placement, but you don't want that, and in fact no dout would bitch about it if i did! bet you keep saying 50 though...

looks like it'll be wet, wet, wet! enjoy

so what'll take to tip the saudi cow over?

no line there

by gay i assume you mean retarded?

fork yeah.

LOL - what's your poison tonight? omfg, can't remember what it was, but i sure know what it tasted like....

I don't have a death wish, yet--soon maybe; thanks for the kick in the chod. Now when and where is the pizza bro? you must not understand - the group-think is this won't sharpen yer mangina i'll get a slice n' a drink w/ you this coming weekend?

too drunk to read - send word - out

as mike's tr would show, it's not new no longer. did i accuse you of lying? long distance runners live for ever, so despite your wishes, i bet you 5$ off-the-hook has me beat by next year!