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not my point, and, as you say, apples and oranges hindus burn their wives on their husbands funeral pyres shintoists make fine kamikazes catholics like altar boys and their sweet attire and muslims would like to kill fugazi!

Not actually what I've been arguing at all - which is that not all religious beliefs are identical, these differences can and do have a profound influence on people's ethical, political, and cultural outlook, which translates into significant differences in how people behave under a given set of social conditions. I'm sure it wouldn't be impossible to construct a set of social conditions in which Quakers believe that it's their religious duty to use the deliberate slaughter of as many civilians as possible as part of a holy war to defend Christianity that's both sanctioned and inspired by the Bible these days - just that it would be rather more difficult to do so than it would for say, Wahhabis. i guess i'm left w/ the question of: so what? even if islam is a more violent religion than all its other stupid cousins, so what? what good comes from making that (perhaps just) accusation? the principle of religious freedom can't and shouldn't be challenged on such grounds, so what practical thing does this realization lead to?

lee-rooooooooooy!!!

siege tactics is a great climb - if i had to free climb it, it would not be a siege that i would win

regretably, once done bitchign about birds, we have little left but to be stupid speaking of tending to kids, miker's dropping his boy off at kindergarten 2morrow than gonna solo stone soup - he gets the honor of being first to see the recent ledge-o-lanche right off p2 right up close, and all while still playing the part of the goddamn pater familias!

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yet its on open forum now... That's it - OffWhite, please murder me! I've had enough. a year later, and on the occasion of the closure, it's time - like i said, it's more productive then bitching about birds tell me you don't have to work this weekend kenny!

did ask, though not on teh intrewubs as many specifically asked me not to ask here

seems to me people are assholes w/ or w/o religion - religion just appears to be one of a number of handy excuses for acting that way.

w/ or w/o parachute? w/ or w/o grabbing the birdies by the neck first?

dude, douglas adams is my god

i don't give a shit about any religion frankly, but an illustrative difference between christianity and islam might be found in their respective first centuries of existence. in their first century: - how many square miles of territory did each religion conquer? - how many of the religions members were murdered by other members of the religion? - how many former members of the religion were murdered after deciding to opt out of the faith? - how many of the leaders of the religion were murdered?

see? you guys CAN find somethign else to bitch about! so who's gonna be out this weekend?

i thought skiers used lifts?

But I thought you were supposed to be a racist, Pink? indeed - and for a pink-skin, you sure gave me some good material for my class openers the next few days

few folks would describe cornell west's hair as "pampered" princeton professors get public dimes? thought it was a private school. at any rate, if you're a professor or religion, it's already pretty obvious you live in a fantasy world, no?

one could also use elven rope?

don't think the good brother fancies himself much of a true marxist as he's also rather jesus-ey - seems pretty easy to read the Big Book as critical of capitalism after all?

quotes, honkies, quotes - need something interesting besides a million times repeated "we shall overcome" "In a time in which Communist regimes have been rightfully discredited and yet alternatives to neoliberal capitalist societies are unwisely dismissed, I defend the fundamental claim of Marxist theory: there must be countervailing forces that defend people's needs against the brutality of profit driven capitalism." — Cornel West

always figured you for more of a child-of-light - only a modulated tacheon-beam could fuck you up

i'm sorry, canadian coloreds don't count

cornell west my pose a problem for my crew - he seems to require a reading comprehension greater than the typical faux-news viewer "I grew up in traditional black patriarchal culture and there is no doubt that I’m going to take a great many unconscious, but present, patriarchal complicities to the grave because it so deeply ensconced in how I look at the world. Therefore, very much like alcoholism, drug addiction, or racism patriarchy is a disease and we are in perennial recovery and relapse. So you have to get up every morning and struggle against it. "

pink's talking 'bout at least the first pitch of stone soup there steve - nice pic of the Dirty HO there though, can't believe you didn't want to get on it!

the easter island death stack - love that thing - whoever trundles it deserves death! it's actually totally stable so long as you don't touch it...or sneeze near it...or look at it cross pink, you ain't the first to bitch at me about the fa'ers - it was such a pain in the ass to draw that thing i haven't yet had the heart to do it again just to get it right at any rate, you need to actually climb the damn thing w/ me so i can understand where you boys actually were clambering around - lets make it a party at the moon-tower when you do - plenty of space on the swiss ledges