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Anybody- going up there? I Have 10 days off 8/23 to 9/1

The Boise Chapter of the AAC and the Boise Climbers Alliance will hold the unofficial (liability and permit issues) unsponsored unauthorized full moon/moon dance on the weekend of 9/21. there will be some free beer and meat provided. Drunken Driving and climbing encouraged.

Going to Robson 8/24/02- we need a third to carry some of our gear. We will cut the rope if you slow us down. Can pick you up in Spokane 8/23 or 8/24

It is all bullshit, this is the axe ident that they are talking about: I was cruising the North Ridge Solo last weekend and whilst descending the coleman -deming- I stuck my X-15 in my tool holster and said " I better not fall and buss my ass or that X-15 is gunna cut me a new one- I took 2 steps and fell on the pick- It stuck in my leg and I pulled it out. No biggie- hell, didnt even need a band aid- Couple of Coleman Route people axed me what was wrong and why was my leg bleeding a oozing hole- Told them I stuck my leg and it was broken by the pick.

I joined for the IRS 503© deduction. It works like this: you ask for the sponsorship letter from the AAC. You claim that you are going to Alaska to "explore" the mountain environment. (some remote mountain somewhere) - Naturally, you keep all of your expense records, food, flights, clothing, and you itemize the deductions on your 1040. This is agressive accounting at its best. Also the $75 fee is tax deductible. Let's see, my $75 membership fee returned a tax return advantage of $500 - go figure.

I am using twin 7.6mm ropes and have some concerns about them cutting into snow bollards while on rap. Anyone out there dealt with this before? Also I have thought about putting a 2-3' section of flexible foam pipe insulation around the rope to create more surface area at the top of the bollard. I have never had problems with a 10mm or 10.5mm; however, the 7's look like they could be a problem

When are you going or plan on going? I have a group of three going to Kain Face on 8/24- 9/2 (depending on weather window). We may be interested in a strong 4th person. You could always jump on our rope up to the dome and solo the NorthFace if you choose.

PS. Ran into a grizzly bear on the south side the first time I climbed Jberg. It ain't a black bear either (I used to bowhunt em'). Any wildlife biologists know what the lowdown is with a grizzly there? - I have one on video from the Ptarmigan Traverse between Yang Yang Lake and the ridge below LaConte Pk. It was taken 8/96

Has anyone out there done both of these routes and have a preference of one over the other. Are the standard route aesthetics good as in not a lot of people and some route finding issues?

The Elephants Perch climbing shop in Ketchum/Sn Valley will give you some beta if you have a specific route in mind. It really depends on what you are looking for. The Elephant Perch is the place for multi pitch clean granite. Logistics are pretyy simple- just like insect said-

Last Labor Day weekend I traveled from Boise to Boston Basin for W Ridge. It was raining and shitty and we thought we would have no trouble at Marblemount getting a permit- Wrong!. We said "fuhk it" and went up to the Cascade Rd trailhead and lo and behold- people were scurrying out because of the weather. We scored a permit from another party and went up to the high camp- female ranger nazi stopped us and we explained our sorry and hurtin plight. She ticketed one person because she felt so bad for us- $50 was a non issue compared to the 10 hour drive. They seriously need to fix that permit system. We honestly did not think anything about it since we got the permit from another party that bailed off

Sorry, I could not make it. Boise is a little far for the drive. I will leave you with some one els's thoughts: CHICKEN SOUP FOR THE BEER DRINKER'S SOUL > >Sometimes when I reflect back on all the beer I drink I feel ashamed. >Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the brewery >and all of their hopes and dreams. If I didn't drink this beer, they >might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered. Then I said >to myself, "It is better that I drink this beer and let their dreams >come true than be selfish and worry about my liver." >--- Jack Handy > >I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the >morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day. >--- Frank Sinatra > >The problem with some people is that when they aren't drunk, they're sober. >--- William Butler Yeats > >Time is never wasted when you're wasted all the time. >--- Catherine Zandonella > >Reality is an illusion that occurs due to lack of alcohol. >--- Anonymous > >A woman drove me to drink and I didn't even have the decency to thank her. >--- W.C. Fields > >What contemptible scoundrel has stolen the cork to my lunch? >--- Tee Mans > >When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. >--- Henny Youngman > >Life is a waste of time, time is a waste of life, so get wasted all of >the time and have the time of your life. >--- Michelle Mastrolacasa > >I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Frontal lobotomy. >--- Tom Waits > >24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? >--- Stephen Wright > >You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It >helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, >but at the very least you need a beer. >--- Frank Zappa > >Always remember that I have taken more out of alcohol than alcohol has >taken out of me. >--- Winston Churchill > >Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. >--- Benjamin Franklin > >If you ever reach total enlightenment while drinking beer, I bet it >makes beer shoot out your nose. >--- Deep Thought, Jack Handy > >Without question, the greatest invention in the history of mankind is >beer. Oh, I grant you that the wheel was also a fine invention, but the >wheel does not go nearly as well with pizza. >--- Dave Barry > >The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind. >--- Humphrey Bogart > >Give me a woman who loves beer and I will conquer the world. >--- Kaiser Wilhelm > >You know you're drunk when you fall off the floor. --- Anonymous > >And God said, "Let there be vodka!" And He saw that it was good. Then >God said, "Let there be light!" And then He said, "Whoa - too much >light." >--- Anonymous > >You're not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on. >--- Dean Martin > >Beer: Helping ugly people have sex since 1862! >--- Anonymous > >To some its a six-pack, to me it's a support group. >--- Anonymous > >Beer - Because one doesn't solve the world's problems over white wine. >

Jarrad, Did you go to EWU in Cheney?

My two cents of experience Tried Lib Ridge in June 97 and backed off at Curtis Ridge before getting on the Carbon. We decided weather looked risky. Retried in June 98 (same weekend RMI killed that dude on the slide on the DC). We had a foursome. One guy in the group made the dumbass statement "Ive climbed Rainier 3x and weather never is bad up here" Needless to say, we got hammered at the top of the black pyramid by a nasty moving storm. We decided to summit rather than risk the descent on unconsolidated snow. Our group was literally picked up off our feet and thrown several times by the wind descending the Emmons near the summit. I have warned several people that they need to go over and do the DC a couple of times before lib ridge. I suspect the route is just starting to get hungry for fresh meat.

Q: How do you get a Nun pregnant? A: Dress her up like an latar boy! That joke has been around for 20 years. The newest and latest scandals within the catholic church are nothing new. Hell, Pope Nicholas 1385-13? was well known for having sex with his daughter ( and having her husband killed). Maintream Christian religions are only about brainwashing and control. Once we start to hold the political and spiritual leaders of this country in the contempt they deserve; our quality of lives will start to improve ( talk about some serious thread creep )

I just took a glacier travel/ I would encourage Colorado what's his name to go up Liberty Ridge. I do not think the mountain god has had any lunch or dinner lately. The way I see it; only a few get eaten every year. Better him then me.

Dude, I thought that was a Titanium spork you poked me with. If i had known it was a tin spoon; then I would have rested your ass with my axe and then got me sumpin and given you a $150 fine for lack of a proper Coleman Galcier Parking permit.

I say that you should not worry about the permit. The whole system stinks and needs tuned up. Just go where the fuck you want and pay the fine. $50 fine (or whatever) aint no thing when compared to the overall time and expense of your vacation plan. Just tell the climbing ranger that you are from Chicago and was not familiar with the permit system. It is like leaving a picket,Ti screw or cam to extricate yourself from your hurtin plight. The fine is inconsequential to the memory.

I fell while exposed in 3rd grade- didnt need no rope then.

I believe Freud's first case of successful psychoanalysis was called "The Ratman". Apparently, in WWI, British troops had captured some Austrians. The POWs were forced to sit on helmets containing rats and the critters would burrow in their asses. Which gets me to thinking- Do you posters on this thread need help?

Do you want someone that is morbidly obese or severely emaciated and ravenous? I am thinking that if I gain 100 lbs- then you can drag my sorry plight of an ass

Let the rock within you come out

You have all clearly missed the point re Lynn Hill- That being; climbing is not about spiritual growth or freedom and dynamics of the hills. In this post cold war era of consumerism. We as climbers are unequivocally best defined by our image. I personally drive my F-350 Cummins Turbo diesel to the crags and tow my Subaru Outback there and then unhitch it. Numerous sporto stickers also on both vehicles. Consequently, I am clearly a bad ass climber

> > > > > A good Irishman, John O'Reilly, met regularly with his toastmasters >club. > > > > One evening they were hitting the Guinness and having a contest at who > > could > > make the best toast. John O'Reilly hoisted his pint and said, "Here's to > > spending the rest of me life between the legs of me wife!" That won him > > the > > top prize for the best toast of the night! > > > > He went home and told his wife, Mary, "I won the prize for the best >toast > > o' > > the night." > > > > She said, "Aye, what was your toast?" > > > > John said, "Here's to spending the rest of me life sitting in church > > beside > > me wife." > > > > "Oh John!" Mary said, "That is very nice indeed!", . > > > > The next day Mary ran into one of John's toasting buddies on the street > > corner. The man chuckled leeringly and said, "John won the prize the > > other > > night with a toast about you Mary." > > > > "Aye..." she said, "and I was a bit surprised meself! You know, he's > > only > > been there twice! Once he fell asleep and the other time I had to pull > > him > > by the ears to make him come!"

Oh yeah, boofer roos also suck