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Second photo down from the top is Source Lake Line. I thought it would be melted out by now. Thanks for the photo's.

Pete. For items in excellent or unused condition, 50-60% seems right to me. But then again, it's all about demand and a set of new gen cobras will fetch 85-90% without blinking an eye. When I say 30%, I am talking about some of the older(3-6 years) used stuff we're seeing. I probably should have been a little clearer on what types of goods, and what type of condition I was referring to. But you're right, lots of goods are in high demand and get a lot more than my percentage estimates. I'm not going to go into any more detail than this, but I think we're on the same page and you get my drift.

Dragons of Eden is Very Dirty and full of Kitty Litter. I don't feel like it should make the "Top List". Hell, it might even be "The Very Best" if it were cleaned up by someone. With the amount dirt, and the mount of traffic it will likely get over the course of time, it might take 20-30 years before it becomes an uber classic Top Route. For the purposes of this discussion, we are talking about "Quality" routes, which refers to how clean and aesthetic a route is.

I see a lot of things priced in the Yard Sale that make me laugh too. Sometimes I can barely refrain from making a snide comment on their post. IMHO used gear, if it's not ancient like those tools, should get about 30% of retail value. I get a kick out of seeing people selling their used shit for 70-80%. If it hasn't ever been used and just sat in a closet, therefore is in brand new condition, 50% seems about right to me.

Hows the Pencil coming along?

Just to correct Dane's post. We haven't got the bolts in to the left side of the Cable yet, as my buddies very old drill crapped out in the middle of another mixed line. Hopefully the Cable's mixed line will be complete fairly soon. We probably won't go out there until we get our hands on a reliable drill.

Thanks Paul. Any word on Children of the Sun?

Did you get a look at Source Lake Line? Any photo's? Thanks in advance.

Is The Drip touching down?

Can you tell us a little about the ice conditions. Was it dry or raining water?

That was my car, it isn't touching down. Still has about 9-12 feet to go, and it's running(raining) down water at a rate of 5-10 gallons per minute. If it forms, and is pouring down water the way it was when I was there, I still wouldn't touch it. Check out Merciful Fate's photo's in another thread, he's got a close up shot of it posted.

Anytime Dave. That was a blast!

Nice work Bro-hem!!!

I did this a couple of weeks ago in warmer and dryer weather. I would definetly rank it as one of the best and highest quality WA pass routes!!! Stellar fingers, hands, and face most of the way. I did the 5.10 traverse too, as it looked much cleaner than the bombay chimney. A "must do" and should be on every climbers list!

Hey Dirtysloper, I read a trip report once of someone who had rapped one of the routes. Don't know which one though. Do you have any info on the new routes put up on the face, beta, topo's, etc? A north facing climb like that sounds like the right ticket in this heat.

Yo Sol, Can we get higher resolution scan of that topo? Thanks in advance.

Agreed... this is a rather vague thread.

Wicked shots!

Nice work Mike!!! My friend and I had camped with a couple fellas who were on Minute Man and mentioned you were up there. Very exciting news.

Definetly bring gear to 5 inches to avoid really big runouts and serious fall potential on the money pitch. I love the photo's of John and I clowning around in the bowling alley after down climbing a little bit of 5th class choss....classic.

squamish will still be REALLY WET and miserable...i'd stay away from there this weekend. if i were you, i'd go to exit 38 or renton instead.

Wicked jobs guys!

Cutting your hands is usually the result of inexperience and bad technique. Tape is aid. You can develope your technique at an improved rate by not taping.

FYI-if you hit the right trail and follow the cairns, the slide alder is completely non-existent!

After the fall at the 5.12 crux, I found a crutial knee bar to give me the reach I needed to grab the side pull on the second go. Ya'll didn't hear, wearing spandex is like eating your Wheaties! LOL. Just joking. When I was deciding which pair of alpine pants I wanted to thrash up the 5.9+ chimney with and tear up....those things won.