jkrueger

Looks like there will be a keg, but there is still need for a tap...

Looks like we finally have a plan! So B-rock, I guess you'll be picking up the beer (make arrangements with TG, if you haven't done so already)! Just let me know where you'll be, and then I'll stop in on my way through, pick it up, and deliver it to Leavenworth.

The keg needs to be picked up from the distributor by 4:45 on Friday, but I can't leave until Muffy gets off work at 6:15. Therefore, we have a problem! So, if someone in Portland (Sketch, Shred, B-Rock, FunGuy, Iain, Lisa, MtnHigh, or even DFA...) could find it in their heart and schedule to pick up said keg and keep it at their house until Friday evening, I could pick it up on our way through. I will jettison Tex to make room for the keg if necessary!

We'll be driving through Portland in the late afternoon or early evening (still too soon to know for sure) on Friday. No problem picking up the keg and delivering it to Leavenworth. As for returning it, I have no ideas...

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Stick, twig and tape! Seriously though, I have never stick clipped anything. Maybe that's why I'm not pulling 5.12s there (yet)?

Trask is the founding member of the Washington chapter of cc.com anon. A speedy recovery to you, Mr. Trask.

Actually, I borrowed a book from Tex that should do the trick. I already climbed a grade harder this weekend and all I've read so far is the cover! After those shoes come in and I've read a couple of chapters I'll be unstoppable! At this rate, DFA will have no choice but to include photos of me in his inspirational calendar.

Well, at least he managed to soften his approach and clean up his act a bit.

Is that a picture of Ryland scrambling for some air? That photo is disgusting, by the way, and in bad taste. [ 10-09-2002, 02:53 PM: Message edited by: jkrueger ]

Is that a picture of Ryland scrambling for some air? That photo is disgusting, by the way, and in bad taste. [ 10-09-2002, 02:53 PM: Message edited by: jkrueger ]

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: You're probably not climbing 5.12 yet because you're too dumb to tie your own shoes (SK told us all about it, buster). To alleviate said situation and stupidity, I have ordered a pair of Anasazi Velcros.

quote: Originally posted by gapertimmy: thats a holiday weekend? what holiday? am i retarded, wait i withdraw that last question i'm sure i'll be around, i never leave bend, its my special place. when i go to a town with over 100k people, i break out in hives and have to rub petroleum jelly all over my body to make it go away... you still want to drink/climb with me? Yeah, there's a holiday in there somewhere. I know because the grandparents already agreed to watch sneaky fingers and his partner in crime for the holiday weekend - hence the trip to Smiffy! What you do with your petroleum jelly is your own business.

Ah yes, another case of sarcasm lost to the medium... What's a stick clip?

Yes, will be Smithing it over that holiday weekend. But that's still so far away that I can't even begin to think about even thinking about planning that far in advance... But until then, I'll be working on training some snaffles to clip bolts for those notorious sporto Smith starts. Are snaffles considered aid or not?

or those legitimate topics with absolutely no legitimate responses... Snaffles are allergic to tuft.

or those legitimate topics with absolutely no legitimate responses... Snaffles are allergic to tuft.

quote: Originally posted by Muffy The Wanker Sprayer: just because I will settle for tuft, does not mean that deep in my being, I am not LUSTING for granite Lusting no less... sounds pretty serious. Is your husband OK with these impure thoughts you are having?

quote: Originally posted by Muffy The Wanker Sprayer: just because I will settle for tuft, does not mean that deep in my being, I am not LUSTING for granite Lusting no less... sounds pretty serious. Is your husband OK with these impure thoughts you are having?

No offense, but does everyone really need to know that somebody died on a route before climbing it? If there were to be a carving at the base of a route, you wouldn't even have a choice - there it would be, a constant reminder to everyone. Though it would serve as a memorial and a tribute, it would also be kind of spooky. I'm just wondering if this would be a good or a bad thing, all things considered?

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Seems like in this instance, though, the idea is to preserve some valuable information in a non-sneaky kind of way in order to keep it available, which sounds like the original intent. 'Tis a far cry from copying the info, crediting yourself with it, and selling it or something. I agree that the info should not be lost. I was just pointing out that there is a wrong way to go about it (sneaky & illegal), and a right way (non-sneaky & legit). Doing it the right way requires more effort, but is also more beneficial to all in the long run.

Just because something is on the Internet, it doesn't mean that it is free for the taking. Images, words, and ideas are still copyrighted and trademarked, even though the law has been slow to keep up with the pace of the Internet. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should... As for renaming Air Guitar, I think it is a bad idea. As has been mentioned, it sets a bad precedent, contributes to confusion, and ignores tradition. I stood under that climb this summer, marveled at the beauty of the line, took a photo for inspiration, and added it to my tick list. When I do send it, it will now be all the more meaningful to me. And as far as a memorial is concerned, I think the best idea is a route in Goran's name - it honors him by doing what he lived for, doesn't require approval from any establishment, and is free. I think carving in the rock, even with the best intentions, is not aligned with a trad climber's values of preserving the rock as it is. A memorial honoring all contributors and tragedies is a wonderful idea, but this raises the questions of site approval and funding...

I have seen snaffles trained to clip bolts. All you have to do is promise not to turn them into pelts and jerky, and they will do almost anything. Also, as they are naturally gifted climbers, they are not limited to just the first bolt. Ironically, snaffles just don't like sportos. This explains why sightings of bolt clipping snaffles are so rare, and why there are no snaffles at Smith Rock.

Leave it to DFA to put trad and stick-clip in the same sentence.

Tex was seen Saturday morning in the parking lot, and then disappeared and was not seen again until after dark... Though he claims to have been hangdogging his latest project (Bunny Face Direct with Sit Start Variation), it is believed that he was actually abducted by a large posse of sporto betty groupies. Despite his best efforts to beat them off with horsecock (it is one of the 10 essentials for a reason, after all), he was unable to overcome their sheer numbers, and was taken against his will to a secret sporto cave in the remote outbacks of the park. The horrors and atrocities that occured in said cave are still a mystery, though it must have been truly gruesome - his dazed and confused mental state suggested severe emotional trauma, while his bloody and mangled body and shredded lycra were obviously the result of intense physical suffering. The fate of his coveted trad rack is at this time still unknown - he returned with only 12 quickdraws, a Grigri, and a daisy chain... Efforts at reprogramming Tex were unsuccessful throughout Sunday, though his heel hooks were in fine form.

Yeah, that's what we were doing... [ 10-07-2002, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: jkrueger ]