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JosephH comes from the old school "Hardman Era" where one's identity is wrapped up in mythologizing climbing as some sort of sacrosanct iconic activity through which to prove one's manhood. He cannot relate to the idea of climbing being an enjoyable hobby, practiced because it is fun.

Fixed rebar would be better. What the hell do you guys think this area is, an ethical conservatory like Grit? It's a friggin' outdoor gym, and it'll continue to be such, with or without safety considerations. The "purist hardman" approach to Si cracks me up. Save that for Index, Gunks, Needles, etc. but not some choss pile teetering in the dank woods along a freeway for cars and hikers.

I've got mixed feelings on the idea of a fixed line or somesuch. Last week when I was there, some guy tumbled from right under Chronic but was able to stop himself on the ledge below. Close call. There have been two falls that I know of from the ledges to the bottom, with one guy suffering a collapsed lung and such I think. It seems as though part of the problem is the crowding at the base of Chronic, as it becomes a thorough-fare on busy days. Perhaps a little rebar ladder to provide easy access across the lower traverse would redirect traffic. The fact is that the wall will be busy with or without the present hazard, since it's the only hard sport-climbing venue near seattle. I don't see a major ethical problem with making it a bit safer for everyone.

yeah man, talk to the oldsters. would you like it if something bolted a line right up the middle of a route that you necked out 15 years ago? scrub the old line and climb it, then paint a little direction map at the base so people don't get cornfused as to where to go.

Hey let Donny worry about the FA. Maybe he'll figure something out that you hadn't even thought of.

hey farty marty, lay off the kid. if he wants to go for it, let him have fun. maybe he'll get the fa.

man, you guys are all such haters! hate hate hate!

it does indeed seem as though you are having trouble....

Sounds like a bit of an assumption, no?

oh i thought we were talking about muslims, and their beefs from antiquity keeping them from living in the new world order and such....

Who's "they"?

Are you trying to say that this point has been made before? Maybe it has something to do with a news cycle shift or something, like breaking news timed to arrive after punditry class lets out.

I can't believe he waited to tell you until after he came back. I don't know if I could forgive him.

I don't think the Canadians are allowed to carry guns in Afghanistan, are they?

he reads the op/ed page of the wall street journal.

son of phil, brother of dan? ? Larry.

Cool stuff! I love snakes, and held a rattler in eastern washington once. It was pretty docile, but i made sure i had it securely by the neck regardless of its apparent docility, but it seemed as though such a precaution was unnecessary! have you ever "made friends" with a snake, as in you felt comfortable enough with it to let your guard down? related note: i know someone who was bitten in the finger while bouldering in tonasket, and he has a pretty ugly scar and permanent nerve damage in the area. i think as some have said, i'd much rather have the venom dissipate from the site of the injection with the trust that my body will handle the venom, rather than restrict flow and have serious tissue damage.

??? It's 9 to the lower anchors, 10a to just below the roof, 11b for pulling the roof. 10a? i guess it just turned into a bigger bag of sand.

Rainy Day Women. Good lord, how do you get past the upper crux? 12a? hah. Sagittarius is a bit of a bag at 10b I think. How about Numbah Ten at Index, and whatever the route at the Country right of Cunning Stunt at 12b.

Thanks!

Yeah Vantage is so sucky!

anyone else having them? so i try to add an image to a post and click image tab and insert url but it only shows url and no image (image is residing in cc.com photo gallery). what gives?

Shit, no one's really gotten Realization or Action Direct yet without cheating! Dru, get on it!

I90 over to Blewett and north from Wenatchee is a bit over 5 hours. There's some method that utilizes a courtship with Camas I believe at the us/canada border, then towards Hope bc, and then 3 to 3a. You don't go to vancouver at all, but bust northeast around bellingham. I think it might be a bit faster. Just make sure you climb Not Fade Away at the Wave, Motel of Lost Companions at Great White, and Salvation at the Doctor's Wall.

I'm going for the second ascent. It'll be more fun and badder asser now that it's illegal. Wind up your panties now, bitches.